[ppml] Policy Proposal 2005-2: Directory Services Overhaul

Jeff Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Mon Apr 18 02:46:37 EDT 2005


William and all,

  Thank you for your reasoned remarks.

  I can understand your attitude and concern here.  Yet it seems
more than obvious that discretion needs limits and hence a
flexible policy seem appropriate that has hard and fast requirements
regarding reporting, ect.    How for instance will it be knowable if
any ARIN staff member is using good and reasoned discretion?
Or does one just assume such?

  I can for instance remember Jon Postal, god rest his kind soul,
handing out IPv4 address blocks like they were so much candy
at halloween.  Is that good discretion?  Or was it trick and treat?

william(at)elan.net wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Glenn and all,
> >
> >  I don't like the idea that the ARIN staff has significant leeway with
> > regard to discretion.  Discretion is a very nebulous thing and can be
> > easily inappropriately or improperly applied for any number of
> > reasons.  Hence a hard and fast policy for reclaiming resources
> > is unfortunately necessary.
>
> There are a lot of circumstances that can be involved that its difficult
> to predict by policy text right now. It is probably better that we give
> ARIN staff some discretion but require them to report on how its been
> used and if we see that there have been cases that ARIN staff seems
> to not be applyng "their discretion" in the right way then policy can
> always be toughened (but already we'd have certain amount of experience
> and be able to write more detailed policy). This is better then somebody
> loosing the block because we were too tough and did not account for
> their special circumstance.
>
> >>  After ariving in Orlando and getting my registration packets, I read
> >> Raymond Plzak's 'observations' related to ARIN directory Services &
> >> Data...  I noticed some interesting stuff that made me think more
> >> about what drives some of my underlying feelings of being uncomfortable
> >> with the proposed policy (2005-2). From Section 4.1 of that document...
>
> And for those not attending were can we read those 'observations'?
>
> ARIN staff should really work harder on giving equality to availability of
> documents to all the ARIN policy process participants (no matter if one is
> attending meeting or not). As it is is, its 2nd time (in last 4 years)
> that I'm not able to attend the meeting and yet again I see policy-related
> documents mentioned  that only meeting attendees have access to ...
>
> --
> William Leibzon
> Elan Networks
> william at elan.net

Regards,

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