[Fwd: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal 2004-7: Residential Customer Privacy P olicy]

william(at)elan.net william at elan.net
Tue Oct 19 17:58:04 EDT 2004

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Paul Bradford wrote:

> so I guess my point is, how do you ensure that ISP's are enforcing based 
> reports of abuse and not sticking their head in the sand?

Many who report abuse would love this answered in more general sense.
The feeling is that most ISP abuse desks do react and those that dont
begin to have nunber of other more serious issues based on how the
community begins to treat their network and ip space...

> william(at)elan.net wrote:
> >On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Paul Bradford wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>    So what is the criteria for a "non business" service?  How do you 
> >>get ISPs to enforce this?  If I spam from my home... am I using it for a 
> >>business?  nope... it's my residential static IP Block.... 
> >>Just a few random thoughts that went through my head...
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >It would be up to ISP to enforce based on the reports they receive, i.e. 
> >if somebody reports that you have website with shopping-cart on your
> >computer hosted on residential dsl, that will be good indication of 
> >business use. SPAM, or more specifically UCE is also considered business 
> >use of the service (email sent for commercial purposes).
> >
> >In my opinion, most important is to let users know that no business activities
> >is a requirement if they want their address/name hidden from public records,
> >i.e. ISP would not just automaticly "hide" customer info just because its 
> >residential dsl order (as SBC seems to have been doing lately) but would 
> >have special form which prints out requirements and customer has to sign and 
> >return to have his data hidden.
> >
> >  
> >

William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william at elan.net

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