[ppml] Policy Proposal 2004-4: Purpose and scope of ARIN Whois Directory

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sun Mar 28 13:34:48 EST 2004

The proposal contains other language allowing for the ISP to take
responsibility and SWIP the space with the ISPs contact information.
If you read the whole proposal, you'll see it.

Also, what you are attributing to me is actually, I believe, text I quoted
from Michael Dillon's post.


--On Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:10 PM -0500 Jeff S Wheeler 
<jsw at five-elements.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 12:28, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> > 3. Organizations and individuals must guarantee to ARIN that contact
>> >    addresses published in the whois directory will reach a person who
>> >    is ready, willing and able to communicate regarding network
>> >    operations and interconnect issues and who is able to act on that
>> >    communication.
> I haven't been following this proposal, so perhaps I'm asking a stupid
> question, but; does this mean that customers who don't have a qualified
> staff can't have their address space SWIP'd to them?  How will ISPs show
> customer utilization of space if the customers are a small office
> without in-house I.T. staff; or co-location customers who may not be up
> to the job of fielding questions about "interconnect issues?"
> No one is going to comply with the above paragraph.  They may as well
> ignore the entire proposal.  Frankly, I don't see what the problem is
> with WHOIS today.  You are far more likely to have problems with a
> SWIP'd entity who has no clued staff than you are with an ISP who is
> willing to hide abusive customers; and in any of these cases, you will
> end up dealing with the ISP anyway.
> Is the entire purpose of this proposal to force Level(3) to open their
> whois records to the public?
> -- jsw

If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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