[ppml] Provider Independence???

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Dec 8 11:59:22 EST 2004

>> Today, you would
>> need to get all the major providers in every region to agree to provide
>> some form of transit for lots of people that aren't paying them to talk
>> to lots of other people that aren't paying them.  I just don't see that
>> as being likely to happen.
> I have no idea what you are talking about. This sounds like
> you are taking the position of the big five networks circa 1994
> who were trying to prevent their customers from selling connectivity
> to downstream ISPs. The market has worked out this problem.
> We have lots of paths with greater than 2 ASNs in them.
> Geographic addressing doesn't change this in any way.

However, it's very hard to point to any of those paths in today's world and
identify three consecutive ASNs with unique owners where money doesn't 
hands in at least one of those connections.

Your proposal would either break connectivity, or, require a substantial
change to this fact.


If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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