[ppml] ARIN IP space in African countries...

McBurnett, Jim jmcburnett at msmgmt.com
Wed Sep 24 15:49:12 EDT 2003

I am confused here.
If 2002-3 is giving out everything an ISP would get, 
and would require nearly everything and ISP would have, 
why not give membership?

IE an ISP I know in SC has a single /22, and an ASN.
	and ONLY 1 upstream.  They have membership.

Why would someone with a more complex Internet connection
not be afforded the same voting rights given to ISP A?

Just curious...


->-----Original Message-----
->From: Taylor, Stacy [mailto:Stacy_Taylor at icgcomm.com]
->Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:32 PM
->To: 'william at elan.net'; Mury
->Cc: ppml at arin.net
->Subject: RE: [ppml] ARIN IP space in African countries...
->Hi All,
->I have confirmed with Richard that 2002-3 does not include 
->ARIN membership
->with the assignments.
->-----Original Message-----
->From: william at elan.net [mailto:william at elan.net]
->Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM
->To: Mury
->Cc: ppml at arin.net
->Subject: Re: [ppml] ARIN IP space in African countries...
->On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Mury wrote:
->> Is ARIN allocating IPs to African countries out of the same blocks?
->> For example, are the LIRs in Africa all getting IP space 
->out of 208.X.X.X,
->> or is it scattered throughout all the space that ARIN is 
->currently making
->> allocations out of?
->My whois data research showed that majority of south african 
->ip allocations 
->are made out of 196/8 ip block (and these allocations account 
->for about 50%
->of ip addresses assigned from that ip block - actually 
->greater majority of 
->85% of that /7 has not been allocated at all). ARIN has 
->confirmed in earlier
->post that despite that /8 being listed by IANA as legacy 
->internic space,
->its still actively used for new african allocations in arin 
->region, but
->I note however that some ip allocations to africa as recent 
->as 2003 were 
->made out of 216/8 and 209/8 and 196/8 was most actively used 
->for allocations
->in 1999 and 2000 and part of 2001. Below message from ARIN 
->President has a 
->promise to do new african allocations exclusively from 196/8 
->as before:
->To my knowledge additional block of 197/8 is also kept in 
->reserve by IANA
->for future use by Afrinic (i.e. it parallels how 200/8 was 
->used by ARIN for
->assignments made to LACNIC organizations and 201/8 was 
->reserved for LACNIC)
->For RIPE there does not appear to be such one single /8 used 
->for african
->allocations, although 62/8 and 217/8 have larger number of 
->north african 
->William Leibzon
->Elan Networks
->william at elan.net

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