[ppml] Allocation and reallocation

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon Oct 27 12:00:39 EST 2003


correct, LIRs do not give out PI space.  Only RIRs give out PI space.  However,
LIRs give out PA assignments (non-swippable) and PA allocations (swippable).
RIRs also give out PI assignments (end-user) and PI allocations (LIRs).

Owen


--On Monday, October 27, 2003 09:37:54 AM -0700 Jim Romary <jromary at kane.jsouth.com> wrote:

>| I have a number of ASSIGNMENTS which I fully expect are mine to take with
>| me when I switch providers.  That is because they are direct ASSIGNMENTS
>| from the RIR.  ASSIGNMENT vs. ALLOCATION is not what makes this distinction.
>| That distinction is handled by "Provider Assigned" and "Provider Independent"
>| space definitions.  Generally, Providers (LIRs) do not make Allocations,
>| but, in some cases, they do.  I know that when the LIR was part of my job
>| at Exodus, we had a number of customers to whom we Allocated space and they
>| submitted SWIPs for their customers to ARIN directly.  However, were they
>| to move, we fully expected all of that PA Allocation back.
>
> I never used the term ALLOCATE for any Customer address space I gave out.
> Not for the /22 to the wholesaler, nor for the /29 to the hosting client.
> The party that needs to SWIP was also not controlling. In almost all
> cases the large Customers knew who their customers were. We had no
> clue, so relied on the Wholesalers with the large Assignments to SWIP.
> It was my job to harass them to do so to get the provable utilization
> up.
>
> I have never been given any space that I could, in turn, give out as "Provider
> Independent".



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