[ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2003-3

[Azinger, Marla]

I dont take this as a way to stop spam really....but I do feel that unless
your customer falls into a dial pool or DSL pool of some sort that they
should have to have their info swiped on WHOIS so that any abuse issues
coming from their usage can be handled directly with that user first before
getting the upstream provider involved.

Marla
ELI
FRONTIER
CITIZENS

-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor, Stacy [mailto:Stacy_Taylor at icgcomm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:35 PM
To: 'Owen DeLong'; ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2003-3


Hi All,

I disagree with Owen and heartily endorse this proposal.

The onus of keeping these blocks abuse-free still lies with the upstream
provider, who runs the risk of a blacklisted block if there is a spammer on
it.  
My Mother's name and address should not be listed in the ARIN database.  My
college-aged daughter's name and address should not be listed in the ARIN
database.  

XO
/S

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:13 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] Last Call for Comment: Policy Proposal 2003-3


I still think this policy is a bad idea.  I still think if anyone wants
enough address space to get swipped (a /29 or larger), there's no reason
they can't remain accountable for that address space.  There are already
multiple options for said person to protect their personal privacy:

	P.O. Boxes,
	Company Names (it's really easy to create a schedule C company)
	etc.

This policy just serves to further allow for SPAMMERS to get anonymous
IP blocks.

Owen

	

--On Tuesday, November 18, 2003 14:07 -0500 Member Services 
<memsvcs at arin.net> wrote:

> The ARIN Advisory Council voted to forward the following policy
> proposal to the ARIN Board of Trustees for consideration.
>
> This is a last call for comments on this policy proposal prior
> to the ARIN Board of Trustees review. Comments received during
> this period will be included with the proposal when it is presented
> to the Board of Trustees for their consideration.
>
> Please send your comments to ppml at arin.net. This last call will
> expire at 23:59 EST on December 3, 2003.
>
>
> Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
> *** Last Call: Policy Proposal 2003-3: Residential Customer Privacy ***
>
> An organization with downstream residential customers may substitute
> that organization's name for the customer's name, e.g. 'Private
> customer - XYZ Network', and the customer's street address may read
> 'Private Residence'. Each private downstream residential reassignment
> must have accurate upstream Abuse and Technical POCs visible on the
> WHOIS record for that block.
>
>## END ##



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