[ppml] 2003-5 rwhois/reassignment info

[Einar Bohlin]

It's ARIN's job to to evaluate for efficient utilization.
And honestly it never occured to me that the general public
would want to evaluate ARIN to make sure they did efficient
evaluations.  But I can see that.  I think this would
fall in the research category.  ARIN is still going to
have to keep all this info.  And some of it should
be available, perhaps via a modified version of the
bulk whois policy.

One thing I forgot to mention, it's been rumored that
some reassignment info in Canada is protected by 
the 'The Personal Information Protection and Electronic
Documents Act.'  See:
http://privcom.gc.ca/legislation/02_06_01_e.asp

I haven't read it, and IANAL, but I heard there 
is stuff in here which would makes an ISP not want
to provide customer info at all in swips to residential 
customers.

And again, ISPs are not in the business of providing
info for blacklisters.  In fact, ISPs should be concerned
about that if that's all they're doing.

Regards,

Einar Bohlin, IP Analyst
IP Team - Ashburn Virginia - MCI/UUNET
Phone: 703 886-7362 (VNET 806-7362)
email: einar.bohlin at mci.com




On Tue, 6 May 2003, Ed Allen Smith wrote:

> 
> >Who needs to see utilization info?
> >----------------------------------
> >The registry.
> 
> How about the general public, to make sure that the registry is following up
> to its obligations to make sure that the IP address space is being assigned
> because of utilization?
> 
> >Blacklisters and anti-spam unsolicited mail generators.
> 
> You're being unclear in your phrasing in the above. People wishing to
> protect themselves and their customers from abuse (not just spam, and not
> just other network DOS attacks, but breakin attempts, etcetera) are who
> you're talking about?
> 
> >No comment.  
> 
> Is there some reason that an ISP should get away with failing to do
> something about abuse just because it's big? Without reassignment info, if
> one wishes to use WHOIS as a basis for blacklisting, either the entire ISP
> gets blacklisted (which will probably happen eventually anyway, admittedly,
> if it's an abusive-enough ISP), or people hold off because of the size of
> the ISP and the resultant disruption to wanted email and other traffic. If
> reassignment info is listed, then blocks can be more gradually emplaced.
> 
> 	     -Allen
> 
> -- 
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>