[ppml] The WIANA registry

[Bill Darte]

Michael,

I would be happy for you (and I am sure that the ARIN staff would as well)
to suggest language which would help new applicants understand the process
and procedure and perhaps even the underlying policy.....  As a party
interested in ARIN education and outreach, I would be willing to collaborate
in support of your efforts and I'm sure that Member Services would also be
interested in our feedback and suggestions.

Of course you understand that this is not a suggestion to change or to
criticize the policies.... rather, a way to make the system easier to
interpret and navigate for the community you advocate for below.

Bill Darte
ARIN Advisory Council 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael.Dillon at radianz.com [mailto:Michael.Dillon at radianz.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:05 AM
> To: admin at wiana.org; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] The WIANA registry
> 
> 
> >> Does any RIR have a simple and clear set of instructions 
> for first-time 
> 
> >> applicants to follow that includes an appeal procedure? 
> NO! And that is 
> 
> >> the crux of the problem with organizations that are not mainstream 
> ISPs.
> 
> >http://www.arin.net ?  Click on one of the "Registration" links and
> >read the directions get ASNs, IP addresses, pizza, etc.
> 
> I said "simple and clear set of instructions for first-time 
> applicants". 
> The stuff on the ARIN website is not simple and clear for a 
> first-time 
> applicant to understand. The word "appeal" does not appear on 
> either the 
> IPv4 Guidlines page or the IPv4 Policies page.
> 
> Your response reminds me of an incident shortly before the French 
> revolution. The people were demonstrating in the streets and 
> the queen 
> asked why they were complaining. A servant explained that the people 
> didn't have any bread to eat. "Well then, let them eat 
> cake!", said the 
> queen. Not long after that, the queen's head was chopped off 
> putting an 
> end to the arrogant statements of a privileged insider. In 
> the months that 
> followed, most of arrogant insiders, i.e. the nobility, were also 
> executed.
> 
> I'm suggesting that those of us who are privileged to be ARIN 
> insiders 
> should come down off of our pedestals and realize that the 
> old order is 
> being swept away. We need to change. We need to explain what 
> we do, why we 
> do it, and how we do it. It does no one any good to complain that 
> outsiders are not following our rules when many of us barely 
> understand 
> what the rules are.
> 
> --Michael Dillon
> 
>