[ppml] Deployment triggers, dates and definitions WAS: backbones

Mury mury at goldengate.net
Thu Jan 9 16:29:26 EST 2003

I didn't say that acquiring IPv6 is the obstacle in deployment.  I was
hoping that a major carrier has some sort of ability to route IPv6 as
IPv6, and not encapsulated within IPv4.

Out of curiousity however, how do you or other experts see the transition
to IPv6 happening?  Is there some other strategy other than hoping a
handful of early adopters will develop an application that requires IPv6
to work and that everyone will want to get their hands on it?

What's going to be the trigger?

The backbones leading the way out of duty?
A software app?
A software or OS company (Microsoft)?
Local and regional ISPs?
Cell phone companies?
In home appliances like thermostats running IPv6?

What's the target date for deployment and how is deployment being defined?
If in 15-20 years the hope is that utilized IPv6 space is growing and IPv4
space is shrinking than maybe things are on track.

I'm not trying to be sarcastic or critical.  I simply don't know, and as
you pointed out, I often miss the bigger picture.



On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Alec H. Peterson wrote:

> --On Thursday, January 9, 2003 14:35 -0600 Mury <mury at goldengate.net> wrote:
> >
> > There was some speculation that backbones were or were not routing IPv6.
> > I've checked with Genuity and Qwest and both have told me they have no
> > plans to support the routing of IPv6.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a backbone that will route IPv6?
> >
> > I know this does not directly pertain to policy, but if it's true that no
> > backbones will route IPv6 than perhaps a policy needs to be created to
> > encourage them to do so.
> I think you're missing the big picture here Mury.
> Simply acquiring IPv6 space is not preventing its deployment.  There are
> many, many more issues out there surrounding its deployment.  We could pay
> backbones $10k each and give each of them a /33 of IPv6 address space and
> they still wouldn't deploy it.
> Alec
> --
> Alec H. Peterson -- ahp at hilander.com
> Chief Technology Officer
> Catbird Networks, http://www.catbird.com

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