[ppml] Waiver of IPv6 Fees

[John M. Brown]

hmm,   for those that are not ARIN clients, that means
they aren't an LIR, and as per 511 of the policy, they
can't get space...

unless I'm missing something.....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Conrad [mailto:david.conrad at nominum.com] 
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:58 PM
> To: john at chagres.net
> Cc: 'Bill Woodcock'; william at elan.net; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Waiver of IPv6 Fees
> 
> 
> I would be very interested in hearing the details as to why 
> they could 
> not get space.
> 
> Rgds,
> -drc
> 
> On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 06:02  PM, John M. Brown wrote:
> 
> > There are multiple ISP's in NM that would like to
> > start building v6 networks.  Some are ARIN clients, most
> > are not.
> >
> > They can't get the space.  We have stalled the system.
> >
> > Cool apps won't be built without people playing around and 
> building.  
> > Like Bill says, this isn't how things are done.
> >
> > john brown
> > former AC member
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of 
> >> Bill Woodcock
> >> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:50 PM
> >> To: william at elan.net
> >> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> >> Subject: Re: [ppml] Waiver of IPv6 Fees
> >>
> >>
> >>> Just to be clear - I'm basicly for what Bill Woodcock
> >> is proposing, I just
> >>> think it should have been done slightly differently.
> >> But if nothing else,
> >>> doing ip allocations by ARIN to individuals for small
> >> or no charge to
> >>> encorage deployment will work too. I just want it to be
> >> clear from the
> >>> start that such allocations would be temporary and not
> >> like swamp space...
> >>
> >> I'm not for temporary.  I think that's exactly the problem we have 
> >> now. Nobody's willing to invest themselves in getting it going, 
> >> because they know that success means that they have to 
> start paying 
> >> someone else for the privelege of using what they just 
> built.  That's 
> >> not the way things get done on the Internet.
> >>
> >>                                 -Bill
> >>
> >>
> >
>