[ppml] What do we do with 2002-6?
John.Sweeting at teleglobe.com
Fri Feb 28 16:51:07 EST 2003
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:woody at pch.net]
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:19 PM
> To: Sweeting, John
> Cc: Bill Darte; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] What do we do with 2002-6?
> > Last call on the mailing list is there to give people
> that were unable to
> > attend the meeting to let their opinions be heard.
> Great in theory, except that's not how you folks are using the list.
> A very small number of people on the list, nearly all of whom
> were also at
> the meeting, are using it, in relative privacy, to countermand the
> decisions of the majority, which were discussed and made
> publicly, in the
> meeting. I find that really annoying. I wouldn't care if it weren't
> making extra work for me, when I already have plenty on my plate.
I agree with you totally on this point. Hopefully, we will get relief with
the new Policy Evaluation Process but I am not sure about that.
> > that being said there
> > was a significant amount of traffic reference this
> policy with much of it
> > pertaining to what the public felt were loopholes that
> could lead to abuse.
> What the public felt we heard and addressed in the meeting.
> I encourage
> you to compare the numbers.
> We also heard that there had never, in the entire history of
> the policy,
> been a case of abuse or even attempted abuse. So we've
> wasted hours and
> hours and hours in mangling an already-over-long policy still further,
> _for the possibility_ of preventing _hypothetical future waste of a
> few minutes of hostmaster time_.
Again, I agree with you.
> > my question is does the rewording of the policy make that much
> > difference in regards to the other RIRs?
> Of course not... This re-wording makes it somewhat more
> cumbersome and
> awkward than the existing policy, but no sane person could
> possibly care
> about it at this level of detail. The problem isn't what the
> words say,
> but that if people go and try to change the words in teh
> wrong forum like
> this, it _triples the amount of work I have to do_. I didn't
> sign up to
> do this three times, I signed up to do it once. And if
> people on the list
> make a habit of screwing up the process like this, it's going
> to make it
> impossible to find anyone to do the work at all, in the
> future. I know
> it's going to take a lot more pursuading to get me to take it on again
> next time. The pool of non-staff multi-region members isn't
> that big, and
> many have even less time for this kind of nonsense than I do.
I understand, at this time I am trying to reach a compromise so the time
spent on this can be minimized to that already spent. Thanks.
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