[ppml] ppml 2002-7
owen at delong.com
Sun Feb 16 03:54:38 EST 2003
I'm not suggesting that it should be easy or incredibly likely to succeed,
but there has to be a way to deal with the possibility of a grossly abusive
ISP. If there isn't a documented resolution process, it will invite
litigation. If there is a documented resolution process within the
the courts will generally take a dim view of efforts to circumvent it
I'm thinking something along the lines of creating a dispute resolution
committee made up of members nominated by the ASO AC from ARIN members
and confirmed by general vote (like the votes for ASO AC members).
The committee could review filed grievances and make a binding ruling.
--On Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:12 PM -0500 "McBurnett, Jim"
<jmcburnett at msmgmt.com> wrote:
>> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
>> Although I think this facilitates abuse by the ISPs, I think
>> it's a better
>> compromise than what is currently proposed. There should, however, be
>> some form of process included for redress of abuse by ISP so
>> that people
>> trying to get sponsored have some recourse if their ISP won't sponsor
>> them other than finding another ISP.
> I think we should leave this alone.
> If I was an ISP and some guy call John Doe, who happens to be the talk of
> the town on SPAM-L as an ISP hopping SPAMMER, were to ask me to sponsor
> him, not only would it be no, but (fill in many choice words here).
> I don't think this redress is a good idea. An ISP just like any other
> business should be allowed to choose who they want to service.
> It is a bigger deal in the US than elsewhere, I believe it is a federal
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