[ppml] Spamming off of this list

Mury mury at goldengate.net
Wed Aug 27 14:36:53 EDT 2003

So I wasn't the only one.  Two other people emailed me privately to say
they had received it and considered it spam.  In addition, the spammer is
a liar... or extrememly ignorant.  He has since emailed me again spouting
a bunch of BS.  Yes, he is apparantly trying to politely back peddle, but
in reality he's lying about how he got the list and why he sent the
message.  Instead of lying and defending himself, he should have said "I
was wrong and I'm sorry."

So for those that questioned it, yes it was spam.  So back to my question,
does ARIN have a mailing list policy regarding this?  Can this person be
removed from the mailing list?  Hell, their IPs should be revoked if it
happens a 2nd time.

His followup letter follows.


Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 14:38:25 -0700
From: "Hall, Brian" <bhall at incognito.com>
To: 'Mury' <mury at goldengate.net>
Subject: RE: [ppml] Spamming off of this list
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I did not spam, certainly not by any definition I've ever heard used.
I did send extremely brief message, individually, to several people (less
than 10 total) who actively expressed interest in a means of automating
the IP management and IP assignment functions.

That said, I apologize for any incovenience.

You will not receive anything more unless you explicitly request it.



On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Leo Bicknell wrote:

> In a message written on Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:15:14PM -0400, jlewis at lewis.org wrote:
> > > bhall at incognito.com
> > > Brian Hall | Product Manager
> > > Incognito Software Inc.
> > > T: 604.688.4332 x111 | F: 604.688-4339
> >
> > Is it really spam if you post in a thread on a mailing list and someone
> > responds privately saying they have a product related to your post that
> > you might be interested in?  I'm not so sure I'd call it spam.
> I received one of these, of note:
> * The message had no "References" header, or any other indication
>   it was a "reply" other than "Re:" in the subject line.
> * My sent-mail archive indicates I've never sent a message to the
>   list with the subject Mr Hall's message indicated "Re: IP
>   management".
> Given the lack of anything to indicate it was a reply, I'd say he
> harvested addresses, and sent out a message thinly disguised as a
> reply.  That is spam.
> --
>        Leo Bicknell - bicknell at ufp.org - CCIE 3440
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