[ppml] Policy Proposal 2002-3: Micro-Assignments forMultihomed Networks

Eric Van Tol eric at atlantech.net
Fri Aug 22 10:54:52 EDT 2003

With this reasoning, I suppose it would be okay to go out and steal cars
because some people find it too difficult to purchase a car on their
own, or lack the finances to purchase one.

Interesting "unique perspective" you have...I doubt that ARIN really
wants to (or cares to) make the process easier so that illegitimate
"businesses" won't cause problems for everyone else.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff S Wheeler [mailto:jsw at five-elements.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:36 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [ppml] Policy Proposal 2002-3: Micro-Assignments
forMultihomed Networks

On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 16:03, william at elan.net wrote:
> This "honesty" coming from the person responsible for taking somebody
> ip block (hijacking four old micro-assignments in fact) is very
The majority of your "hijackers" do so not because they are unwilling to
be accountable for the activities conducted on their networks (or they
would steal ASNs and domain names as well); nor because they aren't able
to pay the ARIN fees associated with legitimately obtaining addresses.
They do so because the ARIN's allocation policies prevent their small
networks from getting provider-independent space.

I can assure you that if the ARIN more easily made PI space available to
BGP-speaking organizations, your "hijacking" problem would be limited
only to those who announce and withdraw different address blocks for
brief timeframes to conduct their business -- and these groups do so on
unfiltered BGP sessions working with transit providers who don't have
the infrastructure to watch out for themselves and their customers. The
ARIN cannot control that, but it can improve the process for obtaining
legitimate, accountable address space.

You of all people, "William", should realize that my unique perspective
is valuable to the PPML readership and to the policy-making process.

Jeff S Wheeler

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