[ppml] IP Address Management Tools

Hank Harris hank.harris at visualware.com
Mon Aug 18 16:55:12 EDT 2003

You should go to www.visualware.com and look at their
DesktopResponse and VisualPulse products.  The first will do what
you are looking for.


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net]On Behalf
Zeibari, Gregory
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:26 AM
To: 'Michael.Dillon at radianz.com'; ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [ppml] IP Address Management Tools

just an FYI...

We have been working with a Company named Diamond IP
Technologies, to
develop such a tool to help us manage all of our private and
public IP
space, called NetControl.

Please contact Michael Dooley directly at mdooley at diamondip.com,
610-423-4770 for more information.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael.Dillon at radianz.com
[mailto:Michael.Dillon at radianz.com]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:27 AM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: [ppml] IP Address Management Tools

A few weeks ago, John Lewis said:

>It doesn't help that there seems to be no suitable tool for
tracking IP
>utilization to the degree that ARIN applications require...at
least none
>that I've seen, and I've installed and tested several of the
>ones...and never got anywhere trying to get info or a test drive
out of a

>commercial one.  This means for the average ISP, ARIN
application time is

>also IP utilization audit time.  Not a fun time for whoever does

>If someone were to develop an affordable (to the average small
ISP) tool
>for IP allocation tracking, and applying for more space was
reduced to
>filling out a few text fields on the ARIN application and
including a
>report from your allocation tracking system, I think there'd be
alot less

>complaining about the 3-month's supply policy by ISPs when they
get to
>their 3rd allocation and finally get slapped down by the 3-month

I suggest that ARIN should provide such a tool in furtherance of
purposes such as numbers 4, 5 and 8. You can read the full text
of those
numbered purposes at this URL:

I would like to see a discussion of this on the agenda at the
next members

I envisage this tool as something which uses a proper
hierarchical data
model for IP addresse, not a relational data model, and which
uses an
appropriate programming language which could be incorporated into
commercial software packages or adopted by enterprise IT
departments. That
probably means a Java framework combined with Python for
scripting glue.

Some things which are definitely not appropriate are MySQL and
PERL. There
are already several hack jobs that people have thrown together
using PERL
and MySQL but they don't do the job well enough, would never be
adopted by
enterprise IT departments or commercial network management
packages. In
addition, MySQL is a RELATIONAL database but IP address ranges
hierarchical in nature and are better suited to an
object-oriented or a
hierarchical database model. The intention is not to do another
hack job
but to provide a reference implementation that other people will
adopt and
integrate into their larger systems.

Michael Dillon
Capacity Planning, Prescot St., London, UK
Mobile: +44 7900 823 672    Internet: michael.dillon at radianz.com
Phone: +44 20 7650 9493    Fax: +44 20 7650 9030

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