[ppml] IP Address Management Tools

Bill Darte billd at cait.wustl.edu
Mon Aug 18 16:36:17 EDT 2003

Eric, (and all others contributing to this thread)

So... the question for you all is......... Are you interested in putting
such software in the public domain?...or as shareware?....or making the
design elements available?..etc.

Bill Darte
ARIN Advisory Council 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Van Tol [mailto:eric at atlantech.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:54 PM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] IP Address Management Tools
> Hello all,
> Changing my status from a lurker to a participant on this 
> list, I would
> like to inject that we developed such a system in-house which manages
> all aspects of IP address management, as well.  This system handles
> provisioning/deprovisioning of IP networks for customers and internal
> usage, reports usage by type of service, provides utilization 
> statistics
> per service/subnet/customer, handles automatic updating of 
> SWIP, network
> architecture information (ASNs, VLAN IDs, assigned routers, etc.), and
> many other aspects of IP management.
> The system was built almost entirely based upon the ARIN requirements
> for requesting new IP address space.  As the ARIN requirements became
> somewhat clearer, the means by which to gather and store the 
> data became
> much harder to deal with.  A team of three very talented in-house
> programmers designed the system for us and it took them about 
> a month or
> so to complete.
> Eric Van Tol
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Atlantech Online, Inc.
> http://www.atlantech.net
> 301.589.3060 voice
> 301.589.3936 fax 
> NOC ===> http://noc.atlantech.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeibari, Gregory [mailto:Gregory_Zeibari at cable.comcast.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:26 PM
> To: 'Michael.Dillon at radianz.com'; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] IP Address Management Tools
> just an FYI...
> We have been working with a Company named Diamond IP Technologies, to
> develop such a tool to help us manage all of our private and public IP
> space, called NetControl.
> Please contact Michael Dooley directly at mdooley at diamondip.com,
> 610-423-4770 for more information.
> Thanks.
> Greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael.Dillon at radianz.com [mailto:Michael.Dillon at radianz.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:27 AM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [ppml] IP Address Management Tools
> A few weeks ago, John Lewis said:
> >It doesn't help that there seems to be no suitable tool for 
> tracking IP
> >utilization to the degree that ARIN applications require...at least
> none 
> >that I've seen, and I've installed and tested several of the free 
> >ones...and never got anywhere trying to get info or a test 
> drive out of
> a 
> >commercial one.  This means for the average ISP, ARIN 
> application time
> is 
> >also IP utilization audit time.  Not a fun time for whoever does it.
> >If someone were to develop an affordable (to the average small ISP)
> tool 
> >for IP allocation tracking, and applying for more space was 
> reduced to 
> >filling out a few text fields on the ARIN application and 
> including a 
> >report from your allocation tracking system, I think there'd be alot
> less 
> >complaining about the 3-month's supply policy by ISPs when 
> they get to 
> >their 3rd allocation and finally get slapped down by the 3-month
> policy.
> I suggest that ARIN should provide such a tool in furtherance of its 
> purposes such as numbers 4, 5 and 8. You can read the full 
> text of those
> numbered purposes at this URL: 
> http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/amend_june_19_1997.pdf
> I would like to see a discussion of this on the agenda at the next
> members 
> meeting.
> I envisage this tool as something which uses a proper 
> hierarchical data 
> model for IP addresse, not a relational data model, and which uses an 
> appropriate programming language which could be incorporated into 
> commercial software packages or adopted by enterprise IT departments.
> That 
> probably means a Java framework combined with Python for 
> scripting glue.
> http://www.jython.org
> Some things which are definitely not appropriate are MySQL and PERL.
> There 
> are already several hack jobs that people have thrown together using
> and MySQL but they don't do the job well enough, would never 
> be adopted
> by 
> enterprise IT departments or commercial network management 
> packages. In 
> addition, MySQL is a RELATIONAL database but IP address ranges are 
> hierarchical in nature and are better suited to an 
> object-oriented or a 
> hierarchical database model. The intention is not to do 
> another hack job
> but to provide a reference implementation that other people will adopt
> and 
> integrate into their larger systems.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Michael Dillon
> Capacity Planning, Prescot St., London, UK
> Mobile: +44 7900 823 672    Internet: michael.dillon at radianz.com
> Phone: +44 20 7650 9493    Fax: +44 20 7650 9030

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