[ppml] Re: Independent space from ARIN

Jeff Urmann Jeff.Urmann at HFA-MN.ORG
Fri Apr 25 14:12:25 EDT 2003


I don`t usually post ditto messages, but it somehow seems appropriate here.
I can`t type nearly as fast as William (<40 symbols/minute) so someone
usually responds long before me.  I am also mostly in "Listen Mode".  I fall
into both categories for limited postings, but I will add a third reason:

3.  I do not always write my thoughts in a clear and concise fashion,
therefore, I fear the grammar police.  I can say though that the grammar
police have been very constructive here on ppml.  Some very good spin
doctors here as well.  But I also do not want to waste other`s time.

I am not an RIR member.  I subscribed to ppml as I have an interest in how
the global internet is shaped.  And certainly anything ARIN does can have
significant impact on the global internet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cutler, James R [mailto:james.cutler at eds.com]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 4:33 AM
To: ARIN Policy
Subject: RE: [ppml] Re: Independent space from ARIN


I am a member of the ppml and NANOG lists, among many others.  Over the
years I have found two things:

1.  If I wait to respond, there are at least two others who will essentially
respond with my thoughts, often in better words than I can.  (The ppml list
top twenty contains at least four such participants.)

2.  Responding to the more outrageous and egregious messages usually results
in ad hominum attacks, so I try to refrain from responding to those
messages.

The net result is to be in "Listen Mode" for the most part.  Sometimes, I
have found a new list, tried it, and found the noise level to be too high to
spend any time there.  For NANOG and ARIN lists, I just tolerate the noise
bursts.

-
James R. Cutler,  EDS
800 Tower Drive, Troy, MI 48098
1 248 265 7514
james.cutler at eds.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bicknell at ufp.org] 
Sent: 2003-04-24, Thursday 6:44 PM
To: ARIN Policy
Subject: Re: [ppml] Re: Independent space from ARIN

<snip>
What would be interesting to know is is that silent majority silent because
they are happy, silent because they are afraid to speak up, or silent
because they simply don't know this list and/or the meetings exist?

-- 
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