[ppml] Re: Independent space from ARIN

Sweeting, John John.Sweeting at teleglobe.com
Wed Apr 23 08:58:22 EDT 2003

 I thought this was an exchange or opinions or ideas, since I am not into
arguing I close by pointing out 2 things....ARIN policy is defined by the
public it serves (probably would be much more efficient if we left it up to
ARIN to create and enforce its own policies) and as stated previously, the
people working for me that deal with ARIN spend less than 1% of their time
with ARIN business unless, of course, you count managing and documenting the
use of your addresses as ARIN business.
I am simply stating a different experience than the one you have encountered
and feel that it is only fair to do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A Steenbergen
To: Sweeting, John
Cc: 'Michael.Dillon at radianz.com'; ppml at arin.net
Sent: 4/23/03 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ppml] Re: Independent space from ARIN

On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 03:10:34PM -0400, Sweeting, John wrote:
> First off I totally disagree with the percentages; they are made up
> numbers by the author to make his case. Second, the percentage that
> understand ARIN policies do so because it is thier job to do so and so
> they take the time to read, learn and understand. It is much easier to
> say.....ARIN doesn't know what it is doing and that is why I cannot
> my request approved.....then it is to take the time to understand the
> requirements and meet them. This is my personal opinion only.

You're right, the 99% vs 1% percentages are made up numbers to make a
point. But I'd hope that everyone understood that, or else we have

You're also right in that the people who understand ARIN well do so
because it is their job. This is precisely my point, very few people can
justify getting paid full time to deal with ARIN. The vast majority of
IP using public does not understand how to make the rules work to their 
advantage. Also, many of the points mentioned are areas where ARIN makes

the process needlessly painful for the majority of it's users.

Now if only all my arguments were this easy. :)

Richard A Steenbergen <ras at e-gerbil.net>
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