[ppml] Proposed Changes to ARIN Policy Proposal Process

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Apr 10 12:47:49 EDT 2003

OK... I think William must have attended a different live meeting than I
did, because he came away with a _VERY_ different impression.

1.	All policies currently are made as recommendations by the AC,
	then last call at meeting and to mailing list for community
	yeah/nea vote.  Then, that result is forwarded to ARIN board
	and board decides whether or not to adopt policy.


3.	The proposed changes do create a situation where the AC can
	consolidate similar policies.  This is a GOOD thing.

4.	The proposed changes do create the ability to get your proposal
	past the AC if you feel strongly and can get N (where N appears
	to currently be 4) other people to agree with you.  This prevents
	the AC from being a roadblock to the community while allowing
	it to at least be a filter.

5.	The proposed changes do NOT as far as I could tell shift any focus
	to/from mailing list vs. meeting.  In fact, both are currently
	basically equal as far as I can tell, and, both should continue
	to be about equal.  I can say that the mailing list definitely
	does not have priority over the meeting in the current environment.

Just my impressions.  YMMV.


--On Wednesday, April 9, 2003 8:39 -0700 william at elan.net wrote:

> I'd like people on this mailing to pay take very good look at what is
> being proposed at http://www.arin.net/policy/process_changes/, this is
> very serious revision of the process in my view both good and bad.
> First few slides about "Submitting a Policy Proposal" and "AC role" seems
> quite good, its good to have AC comment on proposals and make sure they
> are well written - I would like however this to be more public on this
> mailing list, rather then in private to authors, but either one is
> acceptable as long as authors are accomodated. Timing seems very similar
> to what we have right now, so I have no comment there.
> What I do have major comment are last slide as well as what was said on
> the live meeting. Basicly the ideas is that proposals will in general be
> brought in by AC (AC creates proposals out of ideas that they think are
> good and would be accepted) and be discussed and accepted by consensus on
> live public policy meeting that the DECISIVE role will be left to the
> meeting and NOT TO MAILING LIST as is done currently. This means that few
> companies on the meeting with help from AC and BoT will dominate the
> decisions (and as I have already commented many times and which is not
> disputed is that 50% of meeting attendies are from large ISPs, while
> these companies make only 5% of ARIN membership and far far less as far
> as general ARIN community) - seems like we're abandoning idea of internet
> democracy and rather would like to institute "Corporate Democracy" or
> Roman Senate like situation as far as decision making process. I'm very
> very concerned about this and while its probably a futile cause to change
> this general direction, I'd like people and primarily small companies
> that make majority of ARIN to seriously consider if this is what they
> want from ARIN.
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Member Services wrote:
>> The ARIN Board of Trustees is considering making
>> changes to the ARIN Internet Resource Policy
>> Evaluation Process. These changes were discussed at
>> the ARIN XI meeting in Memphis, on April 7, 2003.
>> The presentation slides are located at:
>> http://www.arin.net/policy/process_changes/
>> Comments are welcome and encouraged and should be
>> sent to the Public Policy Mailing List (ppml at arin.net).
>> Member Services
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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