Being blacklisted by Spews
easmith at beatrice.rutgers.edu
Wed Sep 4 23:01:38 EDT 2002
On Sep 4, 10:47pm, Dr. Jeffrey Race wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 21:47:45 -0400 (EDT), jlewis at lewis.org wrote:
> >More on-topic for this list would be a question that's been argued about
> >recently in SPAM-L. It seems there is at least one semi-popular dnsbl
> >(used to block email potentially spam) with a policy of never delisting
> >IP's. Whether you've dealt with the problem, canceled the customer,
> >inherited the tainted IP space and had nothing to do with the past abuse,
> >they don't care. They're not delisting you.
> >>So...in ARIN's opinion where the "efficient utilization" of IP space is
> >concerned as it pertains to applications for additional IP allocations,
> >what is a member to do with permenantly blacklisted IP space?
> You refer to Ron Guilmette, one of the smartest cookies in the
> business to whom the world owes him a lot. For various reasons legal and
> personal he has felt he must cease list deletions; this may be
Putting pressure on ISPs such as Verio to stop threatening to sue blacklist
maintainers and instead actually adequately _fix_ the problems in question
would distinctly increase the chances of this being the case, of
course. That is my recommendation for what an ISP should do if they're in
> As for "what is a member to do with permanantly blacklisted IP space?"
> the issue is comparable to what is America to do with polluted land
> sites. Before buying land one must perform due diligence, or one
> is sucked into the superfund cleanup morass. Those getting (and
> dispensing) IP address space will have to add to their checklist
> whether the IP address is polluted.
Indeed. Holding those formerly with said IP space liable for bringing that
IP address space into disrepute, as it were - not only with organized
blacklists but the many, many private ones by various administrators, which
tend to be much slower to be updated for changing circumstances - would be
helpful, either in court or by less formal actions.
Allen Smith http://cesario.rutgers.edu/easmith/
September 11, 2001 A Day That Shall Live In Infamy II
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