[ppml] RIR's should have power to suspend Member's registration in specified circumstances
John M. Brown
john at chagres.net
Sun Oct 27 12:32:00 EST 2002
and automation in this area is prone to false positives
and other errors.
having the RIR's police SPAM is a bad thing. SPAM
is social and commercial issue and something the RIR's
should stay out of.
As long as there are global transit providers willing
to carry the traffic for a fee, we will see spam.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jlewis at lewis.org [mailto:jlewis at lewis.org]
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:35 PM
> To: Shane Kerr
> Cc: John M. Brown; ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] RIR's should have power to suspend
> Member's registration in specified circumstances
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Shane Kerr wrote:
> > Presumably whatever action is taken against a member who
> stops paying
> > dues could be taken against against someone who fails to keep their
> > contact information up-to-date or deliberately uses incorrect
> > information.
> What do they do if you stop paying? Reclaim your space? Ask
> your peers to stop accepting your route advertisements? Deny
> future allocations until your balance is paid current?
> IIRC, up-to-date swips are not required by ARIN. Even an open rwhois
> isn't required AFAIK. The minimum requirement IIRC is rwhois data
> available to ARIN. Sure it'd be nice if everyone swipped
> everything and
> kept the data up to date, but I don't think there's anything
> ARIN can do
> to force that to happen. If your swips are out of date,
> about the best I
> think ARIN can do is require you to clean up the mess before
> your next allocation.
> > 1. If someone reports contact information is incorrect, ARIN can
> > investigate (send an e-mail and/or make a phone call).
> > 2. If the investigation reveals that it is incorrect, ARIN can put a
> > flag on the record in WHOIS.
> > 3. The next time the organisation contacts ARIN (for more
> space, annual
> > renewal, or whatever), then they have to fix the contact data.
> And everyone can pay more for their space since this is going
> to require
> more work on ARIN's end.
> > If we're worried about extra workload for ARIN, then we can use
> > varying degrees of automation for step #1.
> Someone would still have to program the automation.
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