[ppml] Re: ARIN's Focus

Jim Fleming JimFleming at ameritech.net
Thu Oct 3 12:16:31 EDT 2002

RE: ARIN's FocusFrom: Jeff Urmann
"this is beginning to look like the working class is paying all the taxes while the rich get fatter."

Sort of.....actually....the Outsiders Pay....the Insiders do not Pay.....they Party...(Miami...Vegas....etc)

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Urmann
To: 'Jim Fleming'
Cc: ppml at arin.net
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: ARIN's Focus

Although I would grant volume pricing, and a break on some of the reserved space, I like this policy.  I heard from several on this
list say that it should be expected that ISPs itemize their bills any way they wish.  The same should be true for ARIN.  How is it
fair that some pay and others do not?  Especially when the ones that do not pay, hold the most space.  Some of that space not even
used.  Am I way off base here?
I really do not want to join or start any conspiracy theories, but this is beginning to look like the working class is paying all
the taxes while the rich get fatter.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Fleming [mailto:JimFleming at ameritech.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:51 AM
To: Jeff Urmann; 'Bill Darte'
Cc: ppml at arin.net
Subject: ARIN's Focus

RE: Encouraging return of legacy space WAS Re: [ppml] ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Urmann
ARIN has no control over the deployment of any IPvN.  ARIN must assume
that IPv4 is here for the foreseeable future.  ARIN`s policies must
not rely on any replacement to the current IPv4.  All my opinion of
ARIN just needs to focus on paying ICANN the fair-market-value RENT each year for each of these /8s.
063/8           ARIN                                    Apr 97
064/8           ARIN                                    Jul 99
065/8           ARIN                                    Jul 00
066/8           ARIN                                    Jul 00
067/8           ARIN                                    May 01
068/8           ARIN                                    Jun 01
069/8           ARIN                                    Aug 02
199/8           ARIN - North America                    May 93
200/8           ARIN - Central and South America        May 93
204/8           ARIN - North America                    Mar 94
205/8           ARIN - North America                    Mar 94
206/8           ARIN - North America                    Apr 95
207/8           ARIN - North America                    Nov 95
208/8           ARIN - North America                    Apr 96
209/8           ARIN - North America                    Jun 96
216/8           ARIN - North America                    Apr 98
At $168 million dollars (each) per year, that is a lot to focus on...

Jim Fleming
2002:[IPv4]:000X:03DB:...IPv8 is closer than you think...IPv16 is even closer...

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