Encouraging return of legacy space WAS Re: [ppml] ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9 (fwd)

John M. Brown john at chagres.net
Wed Oct 2 16:03:12 EDT 2002

You have the issue, as JCK once explained to me, of legacy
address holders having a letter issuing them the space with
NO REQUIREMENT that they return it, or that they accept a new
set of terms in the future.

Thus from a legal perspective, the RIR wouldpotentially
have some pretty big legal costs.

You can't change the terms of a contract without both parties
agreeing to it.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of Mury
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 12:25 PM
> To: sigma at smx.pair.com
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Encouraging return of legacy space WAS Re: [ppml] 
> ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9 (fwd)
> Speaking of which, I've seen this encouraging language come 
> up a lot over the last couple years.
> It seems to me that "encouraging" takes more than talking 
> about it on some mailling list.  What has ARIN done to 
> encourage the return of IP space?  It seems to me that it 
> wouldn't hurt to pay someone to make some phone calls again.
> In fact, it seems that Jim wants a piece of the ARIN money 
> pot, so maybe ARIN could contract with him to "encourage" the 
> return of that wasted IP space... half joking.
> ARIN should draft a policy or something similiar that 
> addresses this wasted IP space.  It probably shouldn't be a 
> policy because you don't want unenforable policies, but there 
> should be something.  And then there should be a little bit 
> of money set aside to contact these space holders.
> Mury
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 sigma at smx.pair.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Why not make policy so that the current holders of 
> multiple /8-24s 
> > > have to renumber then (the ones that do not meet the current 
> > > criteria)?  That would certainly yield same additional address 
> > > space, wouldn`t it?
> > 
> > It's much, much easier to set policy going forward than it is to 
> > impose and enforce policy retroactively.  When you're talking about 
> > allocations that predate ARIN, how exactly is ARIN supposed to take 
> > action?  ARIN should focus on the best possible management of the 
> > remaining IP space, while encouraging and requesting that companies 
> > with legacy assignments return them whenever possible.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 

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