[ppml] ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9

Beran beran at beranpeter.com
Tue Oct 1 14:19:25 EDT 2002

I quote from the ARIN web site:
"As a nonprofit organization with a bottom-up, community-based structure,
our focus is completely on serving our members and the Internet community at

Serving the members that operate ARIN is important but their goal and ARIN's
goal is to serve the Internet community at large.
Your "technical and operational issues" are important but do NOT include
other aspects of serving the Internet community at large.

Equal access to ip space is VERY important to the Internet community at
large. This should be a TOP priority!

It is clear now that we have had a number of years of operation in the
current format to understand that IP space is still being improperly
utilized/horded/charged for etc.
Why not allow /24 address space allocations?
I see and have heard NO good reasons not to allow it. The same process and
the same requirements for a /20 address space works well now so why not for
ARIN IS doing a good job. Great people, great service, and responsive.
ISP's on average have not been any of these. And to charge EVERY month for
EVERY ip used which was essentially free to obtain for anyone to justify a
couple years ago is terrible.
Usage can be metered and is metered so the usage argument per IP is not a
good one.


Beran Peter
Beran at BeranPeter.com <mailto:Beran at BeranPeter.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net]On Behalf Of Alec
H. Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:59 PM
To: Jim Fleming; ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9

--On Tuesday, October 1, 2002 12:53 -0500 Jim Fleming
<JimFleming at ameritech.net> wrote:

> Can you convert all that to dollars and sense ?
> As an example, if you determine that your needs are to run a homeless
> shelter, what will that cost ? and why should ISPs be paying for that ?
> Also, what are the needs of all of the Directors and their "staffers" as
> they are called in D.C. ? Do you think the ICANN and ARIN Directors
> should each maintain an office with staff ? Would a $2,000,000 dollar per
> year budget per Director handle all their **needs** ?
> You seem to want to start with **needs** and then work to costs.
> Can you do that ?


I will be the first to admit that I do not have a head for pricing as far
as what any entity (and ISP, ARIN or anything else) needs to charge to make
ends meet.  I believe that the policy discussions should focus on the
technical and operational issues.  I see no need why money needs to be a
part of that discussion, it can happen separately once the policy itself
has been decided.


Alec H. Peterson -- ahp at hilander.com
Chief Technology Officer
Catbird Networks, http://www.catbird.com

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