[ppml] ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9

Trevor Paquette Trevor.Paquette at TeraGo.ca
Tue Oct 1 12:23:10 EDT 2002

Isn't this virtually the same thing as 2002-3???

(The difference is that 2002-9 does not require

*** Again I ask.. ARIN moved away from giving /24s to
*** individual companies years ago, and decided to let
*** the upstream ISPs handle it. There must have been
*** a reason for this. Does anyone know why? Were the
*** reasons recorded?

I'd hate to see this motion pass, only to repeat
history again and move back to where we are now. 

As for people complaining about their ISP charging for
IP space; either:
1) Find a different ISP (Capitalism at it's finest..)
2) Use it as a bargaining tool to get your monthly fees
   reduced. (I'm paying $X a month in IP fees.. I want
   my monthly fees reduced by $X as well. EVERYTHING is

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [ppml] ARIN Policy Proposal 2002-9
> A copy of a message sent to the ARIN public policy mailing list
> on September 30, 2002, is provided at the bottom of this message.
> The author intended this message to become a new policy proposal.
> ARIN welcomes feedback and discussion about the following policy
> proposal in the weeks leading to the ARIN Public Policy Meeting
> in Eugene, Oregon, scheduled for October 30-31, 2002. All feedback
> received on the mailing list about this policy proposal will be
> included in the discussions that will take place at the upcoming
> Public Policy Meeting.
> This policy proposal discussion will take place on the ARIN Public
> Policy Mailing List (ppml at arin.net).  Subscription information is
> available at http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/index.html
> Richard Jimmerson
> Director of Operations
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> ### * ###
> Policy Proposal 2002-9: To Allow Micro-Assignments for End-user
> Organizations
> Specific language to be adopted:
> Keep all the current IPV4 End-user Assignments language 
> except to change
> in third paragraph change /20 to /24:
> The new paragraph will read:
> The minimum block of IP address space assigned by ARIN is a /24. If
> assignments smaller than /24 are needed, end-users should 
> contact their
> upstream provider.
> Arguments for the Proposal and General Discussion of the Issue:
> I started a company in 1991 and was able to obtain a Class C license.
> Our company did well and grew to more than a hundred 
> employees. I left the
> company last year and started a new company. My old company still has
> the class C that I registered. (/24)
> My new company is growing but does not support the use of a 
> /20 address
> space. My ISP is charging me for every ip address I use. I never paid
> for ip address in the past and do not feel good about it now.
> We should have a policy in place that supports small 
> businesses and does
> not promote ripping off the small business's by the letting the large
> ISP's charge for each IP used.
> Proposed Timetable for Implementation:
> To be voted October 30th for immediate implementation.
> ## END ##

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