[ppml] Re: Policy Proposal 2002-2: Experimental Internet Resource Allocations

[Randy Bush]

it is nice to see the rirs working on developing these policies.
but, as a member of (not representative of) the ietf, this does
intersect some of the ietf's areas of concern.  having spent a
lot of time and blood trying to get the rirs empowered in this
space, i am concerned that the rir/ietf cooperation continue to
be constructive, with each playing its part in the movie.

my major concerns with the document at

    <http://www.arin.net/policy/2002_2.html>

are:

  o it states that the standards processes bodies other then the
    itef might be used.  the ietf thinks of itself as _the_
    standards body at the ip address layer of the stack.  so either
    there is mis-understanding here, or a better explanation of
    what you mean is needed.

  o 2002-2 limits things to "experimental rfcs."  so, there are
    corner cases, for example, a standards track rfc could not be
    allocated experimental space.  this is why the tentative draft

    <http://psg.com/~randy/draft-ymbk-sparse-v6-allocation-00.html>

    refers to rfc 2434 section 2 and uses the phrase "ietf
    consensus process."  to save you a lookup:

	IETF Consensus - New values are assigned through the IETF
	consensus process. Specifically, new assignments are made
	via RFCs approved by the IESG. Typically, the IESG will
	seek input on prospective assignments from appropriate
	persons (e.g., a relevant Working Group if one exists).

if would be of help, i could try to get a more formal liaison
statement from the iab on this.  but my guess is we just have
not spent the energy communicating with each other very well.

randy