Fw: Statement Concerning Draft RIR-ICANN Agreement

Jim Fleming jfleming at anet.com
Tue Apr 9 17:30:05 EDT 2002


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Subject: Statement Concerning Draft RIR-ICANN Agreement


> http://www.icann.org/announcements/statement-09apr02.htm
> Statement Concerning Draft RIR-ICANN Agreement
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>
> 1. There does not appear to be any mention of IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name management,
> which may be a good thing, because clearly, that zone will have to be reworked with the
> 128-bit DNS and the various extensions that will allow for larger addresses to be used with
> IPv4++ packets.
>
> 2. There appears to be no mention of the other organizations and companies besides ARIN,
> RIPE and APNIC listed below. Do those companies pay ? How are the other lines below
> managed ? Since each line below is worth $1 to $2 billion dollars, there should probably be
> some financial accounting.
>
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> Address Block Registry - Purpose   Date
> --------------- --------------------------------------- ------
> 000/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 001/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 002/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 003/8  General Electric Company  May 94
> 004/8  Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.  Dec 92
> 005/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 95
> 006/8  Army Information Systems Center  Feb 94
> 007/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
> 008/8  Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.  Dec 92
> 009/8  IBM     Aug 92
> 010/8  IANA - Private Use   Jun 95
> 011/8  DoD Intel Information Systems  May 93
> 012/8  AT&T Bell Laboratories   Jun 95
> 013/8  Xerox Corporation   Sep 91
> 014/8  IANA - Public Data Network  Jun 91
> 015/8  Hewlett-Packard Company   Jul 94
> 016/8  Digital Equipment Corporation  Nov 94
> 017/8  Apple Computer Inc.   Jul 92
> 018/8  MIT     Jan 94
> 019/8  Ford Motor Company   May 95
> 020/8  Computer Sciences Corporation  Oct 94
> 021/8  DDN-RVN     Jul 91
> 022/8  Defense Information Systems Agency May 93
> 023/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 95
> 024/8  ARIN - Cable Block   May 01
>                 (Formerly IANA - Jul 95)
> 025/8  Royal Signals and Radar Establishment Jan 95
> 026/8  Defense Information Systems Agency May 95
> 027/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
> 028/8  DSI-North    Jul 92
> 029/8  Defense Information Systems Agency Jul 91
> 030/8  Defense Information Systems Agency Jul 91
> 031/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 99
> 032/8  Norsk Informasjonsteknologi  Jun 94
> 033/8  DLA Systems Automation Center  Jan 91
> 034/8  Halliburton Company   Mar 93
> 035/8  MERIT Computer Network   Apr 94
> 036/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 00
>                 (Formerly Stanford University - Apr 93)
> 037/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
> 038/8  Performance Systems International Sep 94
> 039/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
> 040/8  Eli Lily and Company   Jun 94
> 041/8  IANA - Reserved    May 95
> 042/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 95
> 043/8  Japan Inet    Jan 91
> 044/8  Amateur Radio Digital Communications Jul 92
> 045/8  Interop Show Network   Jan 95
> 046/8  Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.  Dec 92
> 047/8  Bell-Northern Research   Jan 91
> 048/8  Prudential Securities Inc.  May 95
> 049/8  Joint Technical Command   May 94
>   Returned to IANA   Mar 98
> 050/8  Joint Technical Command   May 94
>   Returned to IANA   Mar 98
> 051/8  Deparment of Social Security of UK Aug 94
> 052/8  E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. Dec 91
> 053/8  Cap Debis CCS    Oct 93
> 054/8  Merck and Co., Inc.   Mar 92
> 055/8  Boeing Computer Services  Apr 95
> 056/8  U.S. Postal Service   Jun 94
> 057/8  SITA     May 95
> 058/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 059/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 060/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 061/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   Apr 97
> 062/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   Apr 97
> 063/8  ARIN     Apr 97
> 064/8  ARIN     Jul 99
> 065/8           ARIN     Jul 00
> 066/8  ARIN     Jul 00
> 067/8           ARIN     May 01
> 068/8           ARIN     Jun 01
> 069-079/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 080/8  RIPE NCC    Apr 01
> 081/8           RIPE NCC    Apr 01
> 082-095/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 096-126/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 127/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 128-191/8 Various Registries    May 93
> 192/8  Various Registries - MultiRegional May 93
> 193/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   May 93
> 194/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   May 93
> 195/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   May 93
> 196/8  Various Registries   May 93
> 197/8  IANA - Reserved    May 93
> 198/8  Various Registries    May 93
> 199/8  ARIN - North America    May 93
> 200/8  ARIN - Central and South America May 93
> 201/8  Reserved - Central and South America May 93
> 202/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   May 93
> 203/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   May 93
> 204/8  ARIN - North America    Mar 94
> 205/8  ARIN - North America    Mar 94
> 206/8  ARIN - North America    Apr 95
> 207/8  ARIN - North America    Nov 95
> 208/8  ARIN - North America    Apr 96
> 209/8  ARIN - North America   Jun 96
> 210/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   Jun 96
> 211/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   Jun 96
> 212/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Oct 97
> 213/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Mar 99
> 214/8  US-DOD     Mar 98
> 215/8  US-DOD                                  Mar 98
> 216/8           ARIN - North America                    Apr 98
> 217/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Jun 00
> 218/8           APNIC - Pacific Rim   Dec 00
> 219/8           APNIC     Sep 01
> 220/8           APNIC                                   Dec 01
> 221-223/8       IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> 224-239/8 IANA - Multicast   Sep 81
> 240-255/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
> ----
>
> 3. Why do some companies have to go through ARIN, RIPE and/or APNIC
> while other organizations above bypass those organizations ?
>
> 4. Why are non-profit companies set up to perform the same function as for-profit companies ?
> [1]Business League Organizations
> Exemption Requirements - § 501(c)(6)
> http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/exempt/business/display/0,,i1%3D3%26i2%3D17%26genericId%3D6854,00.html
> "It must be shown that the conditions of a particular trade or the interests of the community will be advanced. No part of its net
> earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual and it may not be organized for profit or organized to
> engage in an activity ordinarily carried on for profit (even if the business is operated on a cooperative basis or produces only
> sufficient income to be self-sustaining)."
>
> 5. Why are cable TV companies being allocated space from the AT&T 12.*.*.* address space ?
> Does that make AT&T an IP address space Registry ? What are the fees for that Registry operation ?
>
> 6. How is utilization judged ?, especially for the blocks not listed as ARIN, RIPE or APNIC.
> As an example, how do these organizations justify such large allocations ? Who is providing public oversight ?
> 052/8  E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. Dec 91
> 053/8  Cap Debis CCS    Oct 93
> 054/8  Merck and Co., Inc.   Mar 92
> 055/8  Boeing Computer Services  Apr 95
> 056/8  U.S. Postal Service   Jun 94
> 057/8  SITA     May 95
>
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