Just to clarify : Conclusion?

Mury mury at goldengate.net
Thu Jan 4 19:41:50 EST 2001

This seems to make a lot of sense, but I do have a question.  How often
does this happen?  If it happens a lot, I don't think ARIN should have to
do any processing, but rather just notify the party that they do not have
a relationship with ARIN and they need to contact "___________" in regards
to their request.

If this type of request is rare, it would be nice if ARIN would try to
assist the downstream as David outlined.

Nobody should lose business due to a delay in the swip process.

GoldenGate Internet Services

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, David R Huberman wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> Quick recaps, then a suggested course of action:
> 	* Mark's points about the ease of accomplishing one's goals
> 	  when working with ARIN's RSG are very important. The best
> 	  thing about the RSG is their ability to get things done
> 	  quickly without having to work within a giant, slow bureaucracy
> 	  to effect change. We need to always keep this in mind when
> 	  discussing procedures.
> 	* In support of what many people have already written, I think it
> 	  is very important for ARIN to acknowledge that it should not
> 	  directly interfere with upstream/downstream relations except in
> 	  cases where the upstream is being unresponsive.
> Thus, to reconcile the need to maintain an accurate WHOIS database with
> the need for ARIN to remain impartial in inter-ISP relations, I suggest
> the following policy:
> If a provider who has been assigned address space from their upstream
> wishes to assign address space further downstream, they are encouraged to
> petition their upstream provider to re-SWIP the address space as an
> allocation. If the upstream provider is unresponsive, the downstream
> provider may then petition ARIN to enact this change. ARIN will make its
> best attempt to contact the upstream provider to obtain their permission.
> If the provider declines permission, ARIN will notify the petitioner as
> such. If the provider is unresponsive after 10 business days, ARIN will
> accede to the petitioner's request and notify the upstream of the
> change(s).
> /david
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