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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net> on behalf of Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Kenneth Finnegan <kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"arin-discuss@arin.net" <arin-discuss@arin.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] For legacy holders concerned about the RSA requirement for new ARIN IRR and RPKI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how hard it would be to add CRYPT support to IRRD4?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 23, 2020, at 14:10 , Kenneth Finnegan <<a href="mailto:kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com">kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We've been trying to figure out how to migrate ALTDB from irrd 2 to irrd v4 for some time now, but the fact that IRRD4 is so opinionated that there's no overlap between available authentication methods means that it's going to be a painful
flag day for us to make the migration and cut off access for all the users pending an authentication reset, and we haven't figured out all the contingencies for that migration plan yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ALTDB currently only supports EMAIL-FROM and CRYPT, so GPG is not available.<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:57 PM Brian David <<a href="mailto:briand@kpfa.org">briand@kpfa.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FCIX and ALTDB have been clutch for us as a tiny network operator. FCIX documentation and support are super useful. I pinged Kenneth @ altdb & fcix to see about the IRRd v4.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rob Seastrom <<a href="mailto:rs@seastrom.com" target="_blank">rs@seastrom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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> On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Job Snijders <<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net" target="_blank">job@ntt.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> The FCIX whitepaper is quite well done and is a worthwhile read for<br>
>> anyone who’s emailing RPSL templates around regardless of where one is<br>
>> sending them.<br>
> <br>
> The FCIX whitepaper advises the use of 'MAIL FROM:' authentication for<br>
> the mntner object: ** this is NOT recommended ** and *not* a best<br>
> practise. Please use GPG or one of the hash-based authentication<br>
> methods.<br>
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> Kind regards,<br>
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> Job<br>
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> ps. I would like to urge both RADB and ALTDB to upgrade to the free open<br>
> source & modern IRRd v4 product which brings many security advantages<br>
> for both the IRRd operator and IRRd user. <a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Firrd.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cnick.monfreda%40cspi.com%7C1cc806db72be414460cc08d82f525c56%7Cf0ab25a9b0954ac19a58ebe3dea7e0b1%7C1%7C0%7C637311378074553531&sdata=SsuhwKlDjWNJBGkkpGG3mz7Lt7Q6nMeI6STP%2FbzCHmQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
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