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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Same here. Please remove me as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thank you, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#7030A0'>Jacky Tseng<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#7030A0'>enfoTech & Consulting Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ricardo Otaola<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Brandon Hardy <brandon.hardy@cobaltridge.com>; Nick Monfreda <nick.monfreda@cspi.com><br><b>Cc:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] For legacy holders concerned about the RSA requirement for new ARIN IRR and RPKI<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Please remove me also<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>ARIN-discuss <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>> on behalf of Brandon Hardy <<a href="mailto:brandon.hardy@cobaltridge.com">brandon.hardy@cobaltridge.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:58 PM<br><b>To: </b>Nick Monfreda <<a href="mailto:nick.monfreda@cspi.com">nick.monfreda@cspi.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] For legacy holders concerned about the RSA requirement for new ARIN IRR and RPKI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I don't know how I got added to this, but please remove me. I updated my preferences online to unsubscribe but I'm still getting emails. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cobalt Ridge LLC.<br>Brandon Hardy | Owner<br>940-463-0040<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 4:54 PM Nick Monfreda <<a href="mailto:nick.monfreda@cspi.com">nick.monfreda@cspi.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m-8010582888835059868emailstyle18>Please remove me from this thread. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white'><b><span 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style='color:#954F72'>www.cspi.com </span></a><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>NASDAQ: CSPI</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>ARIN-discuss <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>> on behalf of Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:50 PM<br><b>To: </b>Kenneth Finnegan <<a href="mailto:kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com" target="_blank">kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-discuss@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] For legacy holders concerned about the RSA requirement for new ARIN IRR and RPKI</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I wonder how hard it would be to add CRYPT support to IRRD4?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Owen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Jul 23, 2020, at 14:10 , Kenneth Finnegan <<a href="mailto:kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com" target="_blank">kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We've been trying to figure out how to migrate ALTDB from irrd 2 to irrd v4 for some time now, but the fact that IRRD4 is so opinionated that there's no overlap between available authentication methods means that it's going to be a painful flag day for us to make the migration and cut off access for all the users pending an authentication reset, and we haven't figured out all the contingencies for that migration plan yet.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ALTDB currently only supports EMAIL-FROM and CRYPT, so GPG is not available.<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>--<br>Kenneth Finnegan<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ALTDB Admin<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:57 PM Brian David <<a href="mailto:briand@kpfa.org" target="_blank">briand@kpfa.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>+1 as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>FCIX and ALTDB have been clutch for us as a tiny network operator. FCIX documentation and support are super useful. I pinged Kenneth @ altdb & fcix to see about the IRRd v4. <span style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'>🤞</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rob Seastrom <<a href="mailto:rs@seastrom.com" target="_blank">rs@seastrom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>+1<br><br>> On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Job Snijders <<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net" target="_blank">job@ntt.net</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> The FCIX whitepaper is quite well done and is a worthwhile read for<br>>> anyone who’s emailing RPSL templates around regardless of where one is<br>>> sending them.<br>> <br>> The FCIX whitepaper advises the use of 'MAIL FROM:' authentication for<br>> the mntner object: ** this is NOT recommended ** and *not* a best<br>> practise. Please use GPG or one of the hash-based authentication<br>> methods.<br>> <br>> Kind regards,<br>> <br>> Job<br>> <br>> ps. 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