<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Everyone asking to be removed has more than doubled the noise on this thread. There are links at the bottom of every email, and in the List-Unsubscribe header to do it yourself rather than spam everyone else who actually wanted this thread.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nigel Vander Houwen</div><div class="">Null Route Networks<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 23, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Ryan Grewell <<a href="mailto:rgrewell@thinksmartway.com" class="">rgrewell@thinksmartway.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Same, please remove me as well. </div></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:03 PM Bryan Goff <<a href="mailto:bgoff@netnv.net" class="">bgoff@netnv.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 4:54 PM Nick Monfreda <<a href="mailto:nick.monfreda@cspi.com" target="_blank" class="">nick.monfreda@cspi.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<b class="">Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 5:50 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Kenneth Finnegan <<a href="mailto:kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">kennethfinnegan2007@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
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<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [arin-discuss] For legacy holders concerned about the RSA requirement for new ARIN IRR and RPKI<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how hard it would be to add CRYPT support to IRRD4?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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 flag day for us to make the migration and cut off access for all the users pending an authentication reset, and we haven't figured out all the contingencies for that migration plan yet.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:57 PM Brian David <<a href="mailto:briand@kpfa.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">briand@kpfa.org</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal">FCIX and ALTDB have been clutch for us as a tiny network operator. FCIX documentation and support are super useful. I pinged Kenneth @ altdb & fcix to see about the IRRd v4.
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> On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Job Snijders <<a href="mailto:job@ntt.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">job@ntt.net</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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>> The FCIX whitepaper is quite well done and is a worthwhile read for<br class="">
>> anyone who’s emailing RPSL templates around regardless of where one is<br class="">
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> The FCIX whitepaper advises the use of 'MAIL FROM:' authentication for<br class="">
> the mntner object: ** this is NOT recommended ** and *not* a best<br class="">
> practise. Please use GPG or one of the hash-based authentication<br class="">
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> source & modern IRRd v4 product which brings many security advantages<br class="">
> for both the IRRd operator and IRRd user. <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Firrd.net%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbgoff%40netnv.net%7C4d5cff9539d14da2476e08d82f5363c2%7Ca4979fe532404370a44577d21ad5e4ba%7C1%7C0%7C637311382494021679&sdata=qUVY2t7q7dwl%2Bja%2B4bvVe4SheHb1gC0ntJaFzW8a4Ys%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">
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