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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’d second this approach!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have the same /24’s dual advertising in ny and chi.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The “layer 2” between them is cisco ios l2tpv3
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> and yes, dhcp, arp, etc is forwarded over the connection you can build a l2tpv3 network with cheap
as anything 3945’s off ebay for a few hundred bucks that’s pushing 300mbps for us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At the “edge” in both location other 3945’s push the routes to the internet. If we pull one side, its back up in under 30 seconds
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Harris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 26, 2019 12:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rick Ewart<br>
<b>Cc:</b> arin-discuss<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Moving Data Centers - new thread<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you want to get funky and do it with potentially zero downtime, you can ask the new provider for a single IPv4 address for temporary use and configure it up on your new router with a simple static default route, and then setup a gre
tunnel between the border routers at the old site and the new site. As systems get moved, you place their addresses on the gre tunnel. Once everything is moved, you can then go ahead and establish your BGP session(s) and start announcing your IP space so
that things work normally over there. Remove the announcements at the old site, and as soon as traffic is working, get rid of the static route and the gre tunnel and you're all set. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Depending on your hardware and software stack, there are also more-automated/fancier ways to accomplish this like VXLAN or even creating L2 tunnels which establish adjacency for your IGP and would potentially allow it to handle some of
these things, but any suggestions of that nature get more complicated and very dependent on your stack and configuration. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good luck,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:47 AM Rick Ewart <<a href="mailto:rick@ewart.net">rick@ewart.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi All.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I wanted to follow-up on the “portability” thread for a comment made in the process about data center moves…. I started a new thread since its really a different discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have a /24 that we own and is currently advertised via BGP on our data center’s internet as well as on a dedicated circuit from another provider. I am planning for a move in the
future – like a year from now. Last time I moved data centers 10 years ago I put up a firewall and switch at the new location and then moved all the servers 1 by 1 or few by few. Its was close by so it wasn’t a big deal. But virtualization has certainly changed
the options available, and I expect to move about 30 minutes away from my current location. Also a lot has changed in terms of my customer’s expectations of uptime.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have been casually thinking about the move and wondering how I might be able to do something a bit more “slick” to move it with minimal downtime. I don’t purport to be a BGP expert
so pardon me if I say something stupid but…. I was thinking that since I will put my own circuits into the new place (one with the “other provider” I have today), I could probably just use BGP to move things. The thought was to replicate at least the most
critical/public facing servers to the new location and then just stop/start the BGP advertising to change to the new location. It seems to me that this should be nice and easy at least with the 1 “other provider” I have today, and avoid the need to re-IP anything.
I mean, the convergence should be like normal and quick. Correct?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If so, it seems I can have almost zero downtime on the more static things like web sites. Then I can move the SANs, main virtual hosts and such a bit more “leisurely”. Obviously
things like mail servers and such will be more of an issue because they are constantly changing (but are less visible to the outside world if they go down for an hour), but DNS servers, many web servers, etc should be ok I would think.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I welcome any thoughts on this. Want to make sure I am not overlooking something basic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Rick<o:p></o:p></p>
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