<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div>Sorry Presidential Text, no unsubscribe</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Robert Clarke <robert@cubemotion.com> </div><div>Date: 10/10/18 8:14 PM (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: "James J. Mayer" <James@mayernetworks.com> </div><div>Cc: arin-discuss@arin.net </div><div>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM </div><div><br></div></div>Unsubscribe-all<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div style=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:12 PM, James J. Mayer <<a href="mailto:James@mayernetworks.com" class="">James@mayernetworks.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Unsubscribe</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; 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text-decoration: underline;" class="">618.529.4922</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font size="2" class="">Currently mobile, sorry for improper grammar, spelling or a wildly outrageous autocorrect.</font></div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">-------- Original message --------</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">From: Ted Grandpre <<a href="mailto:tedg@truenorthitg.com" class="">tedg@truenorthitg.com</a>></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Date: 10/10/18 8:28 PM (GMT-06:00)</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">To: Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" class="">hannigan@gmail.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net" class="">arin-discuss@arin.net</a></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">unsubscribe</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-discuss <<a href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net" class="">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Martin Hannigan<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:18 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net" class="">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Bill Sandiford! What do you think? :-)</div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Cheers,</div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Marty</div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </p><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 21:14 John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On 10 Oct 2018, at 5:33 PM, Clayton Zekelman <<a href="mailto:clayton@MNSi.Net" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">clayton@MNSi.Net</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hello,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it up, but did anyone else receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running for an ARIN board position this week?<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> It appears that they harvested my e-mail address from my POC record.<br class=""><br class="">Folks -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">In accordance with the Virginia nonstock corporation act, ARIN makes available online for inspection the list of eligible voters for its annual election. That list includes both the organization name and the organization’s postal address (note that we do not provide email contact information or telephone numbers as part of this list.)<br class=""><br class="">ARIN’s election procedures do not constrain candidates from promotion of any form; this has been discussed with the Board in the past with the result being that it is best left to the judgement of each voter what constitutes useful and informative information versus an undesired appeal for support.<br class=""><br class="">There are many ways that the eligible voter list can be reconciled with the related e-mail addresses, and this does include potentially use of ARIN’s Whois and Bulk Whois services. Our present terms of use for those Whois services do not specifically mention use related to ARIN election purposes, and as such an it is possible to argue either side of the usage being permissible or impermissible. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">I am aware of candidate email campaigns occurring in several of the past years, and this year appears to be no different. I would ask that for the time being, folks consider such emails as one more additional encouragement to vote (if you have not already). Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our election processes in general) is warranted in this regard.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Thanks! (and again - remember to vote!)<br class="">/John<br class=""><br class="">John Curran<br class="">President and CEO<br class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">ARIN-Discuss<br class="">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br class="">the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-discuss@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ARIN-discuss@arin.net</a>).<br class="">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br class=""><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss</a><br class="">Please contact<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@arin.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">info@arin.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>if you experience any issues.</div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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