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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Paul, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> I am not expressing an opinion on the subject at hand, and I welcome the discussion as I feel there are merits on both sides, but I read the first 2 paragraphs of your note to be that you are not in favor of term limits, then in the 3<sup>rd</sup> paragraph you state that Marla Azinger suffers clouded judgment from holding a position for too long of a term. To me that would appear you support term limits, but it is also contradictory, so can you help me understand if you are in favor of term limits or not?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jim <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Timmins<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> Radzwon, Tony; Steven Ryerse; Azinger, Marla; arin-ppml@arin.net; arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>I have concerns that forcing people out of a position where people repeatedly vote for them is undemocratic, and can threaten the stability of the regulatory regime by forcing people with experience out of a role when their judgement may be perfectly okay and properly reflect community consensus.<br><br>It also can promote inappropriate industry influence by allowing large players to target roles well in advance knowing a certain candidate will be out of the election to cause undue influence on ARIN's policies.<br><br>Additionally, the proposal is being floated by someone who has been on the BOT for 6 years, and thus their judgement may be clouded because they've been on the BOT too long.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul Timmins<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Clear Rate Communications</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Direct: (248) 556-4532</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Customer Support: (877) 877-4799</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>24 Hour Repair: (866) 366-4665</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>Network Operations: (877) 877-1250</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'><a href="http://www.clearrate.com">www.clearrate.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>This message contains confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating or copying this message is strictly prohibited. <br><br>If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately send notification by replying to the message, indicate the message was received by mistake, and then delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you.<br><br>Clear Rate Communications, Inc. 555 S. Old Woodward, Suite 600, Birmingham, MI 48009.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRpF904945><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] on behalf of Radzwon, Tony [Tony.Radzwon@integratelecom.com]<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Steven Ryerse; Azinger, Marla; arin-ppml@arin.net; arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Term Limit Proposal</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I second that….</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steven Ryerse<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> Azinger, Marla; arin-ppml@arin.net; arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would support this.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steven Ryerse</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>President</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA 30338</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.eclipse-networks.com" target="_blank">www.eclipse-networks.com</a></span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>770.656.1460 - Cell</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>770.399.9099- Office</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=56 height=37 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CF481A.A665E940" alt="Description: Description: Eclipse Networks Logo_small.png"></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F497D'>℠</span><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Eclipse Networks, Inc.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><sup><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Conquering Complex Networks</span></sup><sup><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D'>℠</span></sup><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a> [<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Azinger, Marla<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>; <a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [arin-ppml] Term Limit Proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Having been on the AC for a 6 years I support a term limit for the AC. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>When on my 4<sup>th</sup> year I pursued creating a term limit. At the time I was told this was an action the BOT would have to take. No action was taken. Later I inquired on this being submitted as policy since the BOT did not take action. I was told it would be thrown out since it’s not a matter of policy. Now with time and reviewing other public posts, I have more hope this will be taken seriously and something done. I include this small history on my experience to show that the idea of term measures has been around for a while but for some reason never gained traction.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I believe a balance between familiarity, hitting a productive stride, burn out and mind melting needs to be balanced out with fresh able minds. I also believe a solid 3 year break is needed for people to re-integrate as a non-AC person and regroup. Leaving anyone on a committee for more than 6 years opens the door to stagnation, burn out, and conformity of thinking. Remember, just because someone is not on the AC any longer does not mean AC folks can’t get advice from them if desired. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>I propose the following be used for AC:</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>-Keep the 3 year terms in place and add </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><b><span style='color:black'>-a 6 year contiguous term limit </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><b><span style='color:black'>-a 3 year ineligibility year period after a term ends be it 3year or 6years</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><b><span style='color:black'>-After 3 year ineligibility is over a person my run for a position on the AC again.</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><b><span style='color:black'> </span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I believe the BOT should also have some term measures and limits. However, I am asking someone who has served on the BOT in the past to create a thought out term plan and propose it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>To keep this topic on track, I have purposely excluded the discussion of committee member candidate requirements. This should be a separate topic that also needs discussion in order to better ensure community wide representation. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Marla Azinger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>