<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Not true... The nomination process is open to DMRs as follows:<div><br></div><div><h4 style="margin: 1em 0px 0.5em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 19px; ">Nominator Eligibility</h4><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: static; z-index: auto; ">Trustees and <a href="https://www.arin.net/about_us/membership/member.html#gmigs" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">General Members in good standing</a> may make up to three nominations for each open Board of Trustees and Advisory Council position. Trustees and General Members in good standing may nominate themselves, ARIN members, or nonmembers according to the guidelines set in the ARIN Bylaws (<a href="https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/bylaws.html#viii_2" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">Bylaws, Article VIII, Section 2.</a>) and explained in the call for nominations. Nominees need not be ARIN General Members in good standing. Nonmembers may self-nominate by <a href="https://www.arin.net/participate/elections/elec_procedures.html#petition" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-decoration: none; ">petition</a>.</div><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: static; z-index: auto; "><br></div><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: static; z-index: auto; ">As such, a DMR may nominate up to three candidates for consideration by the nominating committee. In my experience, the nominating committee does not arbitrarily reject candidates nor do they take the rejection of a candidate lightly, so any nomination of a qualified candidate has a very high probability of getting that candidate onto the electoral slate.</div><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: relative; z-index: 0; "><br></div><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: relative; z-index: 0; ">Owen</div><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: relative; z-index: 0; "><br></div><div style="margin: 0.5em 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 1.5em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; position: static; z-index: auto; "><br>On Jan 21, 2013, at 10:21 , Mark Bayliss <<a href="mailto:mark@visuallink.com">mark@visuallink.com</a>> wrote:</div><div><blockquote type="cite">
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Dennis,<br><br>
I think you make some good points. But I think that by adding
"a none of the candidates" and not an abstention vote. You
would be giving all that vote more power and control over the election
process. Currently DMR does not have a say as to who is on the ballet.
And this can lead to either people not voting or people voting the lesser
of two evils. This is not just a fault of ARIN but most elections in
general since the voters are not involved in the candidate section
process. The voters are only presented with a choice between candidates
selected by committee. If we added a third choice for voters to be able
to vote for "None of the candidates" it would provide an
additional checks and balance for truly democratic elections. And
If more than 51% of those who voted choose "None Of The
candidates" Then those candidates on the ballet would not be elected
and we would have to select new candidates and have another
election. By adopting this process Arin would always be sure that
when a candidate wins an election that the majority of voters agreed with
the selection comities choices. <br><br>
Mark Bayliss<br><br>
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At 11:22 AM 1/21/2013, Dennis Fazio wrote:<br>
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In my experience, 10%-15% turnout doesn't seem that bad in these types of
online elections with these type of organizations. You do have 400-500
engaged organizations making policy decisions by participating, which is
a pretty sizable number. It wasn't too long ago when only small handfuls
of people were doing this for the thousands of Internet participants at
the time.<br><br>
There is a division of role with DMR and admin/tech POCs. The POCs are
operational roles, the DMR is the business/policy representative to ARIN.
The POCs keep the services up to date and running; the DMR deals with the
governance and policy issues.<br><br>
In most smaller organizations, the DMR and POC are likely the same
person, so extending voting ability to POCs will not likely increase the
voting pool that much. Making it easier to change the DMR would be
helpful. Otherwise, I'll bet that the DMR often gives a trusted POC their
login credentials to delegate voting in smaller organizations. <br><br>
I suspect that most organizations treat ARIN as a utility service and are
not engaged enough to read through all the policy and election material.
As long as the service keeps working OK, they're fine. Most of the
elections are non-controversial and if we who do not know the candidates
or have not heard of them, we have a hard time making choices based only
on blurbs in the distributed material. An abstention vote might be nice,
but that may not help much either. Abstention by not voting is easier
than going through and marking a ballot.<br><br>
If there were a truly important and contested Internet governance issue
and it was in the news, and folks were either seriously concerned or
dissatisfied, you can be sure there will be a huge surge in DMR voting
participation.<br><br>
In the meantime, keep it simple, keep the roles defined as they are, and
don't worry about the participation level.<br>
-- <br>
Dennis Fazio<br>
TIES, Director of Technical Services<br><br>
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