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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The organization I serve as DMR does not have a long history of membership in ARIN, so I’m not aware of any history of issues within the organization. That said I favor the direction of Jim’s comments, if there were issues the non-voting 90% would no doubt be up in arms and participating. If such an issue were to rise to the level, those carrying the discussion for change have the means to bring the issue to the attention of the electorate and state their cause.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am opposed to making a change at this point.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Terry <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Dolan Jr<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Consultation: Changing the Voter Eligibility for ARIN Member Organizations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Brent, is that not basically what the DMR role is, a designated rep of an org. I may be mistaken but a DMR can be changed at any point. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also as for the group of 10 to 15 percent of orgs that do not have a DMR that is a choice the respective org makes. They can set one up if they wanted to, just as they could set up a tech POC. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have voted in the past and I have not voted in other arin elections. Some years candidates or issues matter to me or my company, while in other years it does not. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Long way of saying making more people able to vote does not increase participation. I am not in favor of this change. In fact one way to look at a 10 percent voting participation may be that 90 percent are content with how arin is, and do not feel the need to vote to change anything.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 15, 2013, at 12:40 PM, "Brent Sweeny" <<a href="mailto:sweeny@indiana.edu">sweeny@indiana.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I applaud the goal of increasing participation in ARIN elections (and am<br>also curious about the participation rate of DMRs from the 87% of orgs<br>who have DMRs--among all the other statistics given, that one would have<br>been very useful and was prominently absent), but I agree with what I<br>think is the set of objections to the new proposal for what appears to<br>be a sort of uncoordinated ad-hoc voting method open to<br>intra-organization conflict.<br>How about if the org's admin POC(s) pre-designated a subset of the org's<br>POCs, either admin or tech, as 'candidate' voters, among whom any of<br>them could cast the org's vote? would that, perhaps, meet the objective<br>and help meet the concerns of objectors? just a thought.<br><br>Brent Sweeny, Indiana University<br>_______________________________________________<br>ARIN-Discuss<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-discuss@arin.net">ARIN-discuss@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss</a><br>Please contact <a href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</a> if you experience any issues.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>