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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good morning:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good morning:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What I would like to see is when an IPv6 block is offered to a client that the block be defined in at least one of two groups. Companies like GE, IBM, Wal-Mart are looking to use IPv6 addresses for RFID price tags. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So these companies will have blocks from ARIN, and never intend to announce them in BGP. So let’s know that all IPv6 addresses starting with D and E are non-BGP Tags; never to be announced. With over 4 billion /32 routes knowing that GE is using an IPv6 range for RFID tags would be impossible to keep track of. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So Spammers and others could steal the RFID IPv6 subnets and you are now being SPAMMED by a GE Refrigerator. The change would be easy, just ask the question what are you using the IPv6 for if not routing to the Internet change the first letter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would like to do something similar with the new range of BGP AS numbers. There we could use the 1,776,000,000 to 1,776,999,999 set aside as Private for MPLS and other services that need more than the 65000 range in the older AS range.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>George Morton, Ph. D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dual CCIE 18532, Router/Switch & Security<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Optimizing IP Enterprise Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>954-591-8532<i> </i>Google Voice<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:navy'><img width=190 height=92 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CBFE64.E9BE0400" alt="Description: little R-S-Sec"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#95B3D7'>The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#95B3D7'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 18, 2011 4:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Size Categories for IPv6.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I believe that the proposed changes make more sense.<br><br>My two cents anyway!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=p1><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=p2><b>Scott Morris</b>, CCIE<i>x4</i> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p2>CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p2>CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p3><a href="mailto:swm@emanon.com">swm@emanon.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=p4>Knowledge is power.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p4>Power corrupts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=p4>Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 4/18/11 3:54 PM, <a href="mailto:cja@daydream.com">cja@daydream.com</a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There was a recent policy proposal (138) to try to change the size categories for IPv6 allocations. It was abandoned by the AC because it is a pricing matter but I wanted to start up a discussion here to perhaps give ARIN guidance as to how the community feels about changing the sizes. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Currently the IPv6 size categories are<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 summary="IPv6 Initial Allocation and IPv6 Assignment
Fee Summary" width=749 style='width:449.25pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=bottom style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#999999;padding:3.75pt 7.5pt 3.75pt 7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>Size Category<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td width=150 valign=bottom style='width:1.25in;border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:3.75pt 7.5pt 3.75pt 7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>Fee (US Dollars)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#999999;padding:3.75pt 7.5pt 3.75pt 7.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>Block Size<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>X-small<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=150 valign=top style='width:1.25in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>$1,250<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>smaller than /40<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>Small<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=150 valign=top style='width:1.25in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>$2,250<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>/40 to /32<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>Medium<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=150 valign=top style='width:1.25in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>$4,500<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>/31 to /30<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>Large<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=150 valign=top style='width:1.25in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>$9,000<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>/29 to /27<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:white;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>X-large<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=150 valign=top style='width:1.25in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:white;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>$18,000<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:white;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>/26 to /22<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>XX-large<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=150 valign=top style='width:1.25in;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>$36,000<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=top style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;border-right:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;background:#EDEDED;padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt'>/22 and larger<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr><td colspan=3 style='background:#999999;padding:3.75pt 7.5pt 3.75pt 7.5pt'><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:8.0pt 8.0pt 8.0pt 8.0pt;background:#D4EFFD'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#D4EFFD;vertical-align:baseline;border:none;padding:0in'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;text-transform:uppercase'>IPv6 Annual FeeS (NOTE: FEE WAIVERS IN EFFECT)<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The proposal was to change them as follows</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><span class=apple-style-span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><span class=apple-style-span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X-small<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> /32 or smaller</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Small<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> /31 to /30</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Medium<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> /29 to /27</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Large<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> /26 to /24</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X-large<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> /23 to /20</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>XX-large<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> /20 and larger</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><span class=apple-style-span><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier 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