It's worth noting that the policy in question (2011-3) actually creates the /36 allocation size, as well.<div><br></div><div>-MJ<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Randy Carpenter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rcarpen@network1.net">rcarpen@network1.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"><span><div><span><br></span></div>I think it makes more sense than the current categories.</span><div>

<span><br></span></div><div><span>Is there an easy way to determine how it would affect revenues from all current IPv6 holders?<br><br></span><div><span>I also think it will warrant re-thinking if/when policy goes through to make allocations based on nibble boundaries. I think it would make the most sense in that case for each nibble boundary to be in its own category.<br>

<span name="x"></span><br>-Randy<br><br>--<br>| Randy Carpenter<br>| Vice President - IT Services<br>| Red Hat Certified Engineer<br>| First Network Group, Inc.<br>| <a href="tel:%28800%29578-6381" value="+18005786381" target="_blank">(800)578-6381</a>, Opt. 1<br>

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<div><div></div><div class="h5">There was a recent policy proposal (138) to try to change the size categories for IPv6 allocations.  It was abandoned by the AC because it is a pricing matter but I wanted to start up a discussion here to perhaps give ARIN guidance as to how the community feels about changing the sizes.  <div>


<br></div><div>Currently the IPv6 size categories are</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;line-height:16px"><table summary="IPv6 Initial Allocation and IPv6 Assignment Fee Summary" style="margin-top:1.5em !important;margin-right:0px !important;margin-bottom:1em !important;margin-left:0px !important;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;border-collapse:collapse;width:599px;background-repeat:initial initial">


<caption style="margin-top:0px !important;margin-bottom:0px !important;margin-left:0px !important;padding-top:10px;padding-right:10px;padding-bottom:10px;padding-left:10px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:12px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(212, 239, 253);text-align:left;font-weight:bold;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);text-transform:uppercase;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-style:solid;border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">IPv6 Annual FeeS (NOTE: FEE WAIVERS IN EFFECT)</caption><tbody style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;background-repeat:initial initial"><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;background-repeat:initial initial">


<th scope="col" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:10px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:10px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(153, 153, 153);text-align:left;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-transform:none;border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);font-weight:bold;background-repeat:initial initial">


Size Category</th><th width="150" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:10px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:10px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(153, 153, 153);text-align:left;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-transform:none;border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);font-weight:bold;background-repeat:initial initial">


Fee (US Dollars)</th><th scope="col" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:10px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:10px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(153, 153, 153);text-align:left;color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-transform:none;border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);font-weight:bold;background-repeat:initial initial">


Block Size</th></tr><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;background-repeat:initial initial">


<td style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:transparent;text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


X-small</td><td width="150" align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:transparent;text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


$1,250</td><td align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:transparent;text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


smaller than /40</td></tr><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);background-repeat:initial initial">


<td style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


Small</td><td width="150" align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


$2,250</td><td align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


/40 to /32</td></tr><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:transparent;background-repeat:initial initial">


<td style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:transparent;text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


Medium</td><td width="150" align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:transparent;text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


$4,500</td><td align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:transparent;text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


/31 to /30</td></tr><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);background-repeat:initial initial">


<td style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


Large</td><td width="150" align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


$9,000</td><td align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


/29 to /27</td></tr><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);background-repeat:initial initial">


<td style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


X-large</td><td width="150" align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


$18,000</td><td align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


/26 to /22</td></tr><tr style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;border-top-width:0px;border-right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-left-width:0px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:10px;vertical-align:baseline;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);background-repeat:initial initial">


<td style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


XX-large</td><td width="150" align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


$36,000</td><td align="right" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:5px;padding-right:5px;padding-bottom:5px;padding-left:5px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-style:initial;border-color:initial;font-size:11.5px;vertical-align:top;background-color:rgb(237, 237, 237);text-align:left;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-right-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-bottom-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);background-repeat:initial initial">


/22 and larger</td></tr></tbody></table><span style="font-family:arial;line-height:normal;font-size:small">The proposal was to change them as follows</span></span></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br>


</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;line-height:16px"><span style="font-family:arial;line-height:normal;font-size:small"></span></span><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">X-small    /32 or smaller</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">Small      /31 to /30</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">Medium     /29 to /27</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">Large      /26 to /24</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">X-large    /23 to /20</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"></span><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">XX-large          /20 and larger</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">Thanks!</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:monospace;font-size:13px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">----Cathy</span></div>
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