<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Consolas;
panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
span.apple-tab-span
{mso-style-name:apple-tab-span;}
span.apple-style-span
{mso-style-name:apple-style-span;}
span.apple-converted-space
{mso-style-name:apple-converted-space;}
span.EmailStyle20
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Owen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I would still be opposed under the idea that they would deserve
special rates. This would perpetuate the idea of multiple classes of members /
space holders that I would like to see diminished if not eliminated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>- Brian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Owen DeLong
[mailto:owen@delong.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Johnson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for
IPv6assignments to LRSA signatories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Brian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>The
IPv6 space under this suggestion would be subject to regular RSA, not LRSA.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Only the legacy space would be covered by the LRSA.
With that clarification, do you<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>still oppose the suggestion? (I'll note that the suggestion
relates to reducing fees, ARIN<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>policy already provides for them to get the space on these
terms).<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Owen<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 25, 2010, at 6:27 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I oppose this proposal as it maintains the current divide
between legacy space and “regular” space. If a legacy holder wants
IPv6 space, they would need to sign a regular RSA and join the rest of us.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>- Brian</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;
border-width:initial;border-color:initial'>
<div>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;
border-width:initial;border-color:initial'>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Owen DeLong<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Tuesday, February
02, 2010 10:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[arin-discuss]
Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6assignments to LRSA signatories</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>I have submitted a formal suggestion to the ACSP
recommending that the BoT waive initial<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>assignment fees for IPv6 when the applicant is a legacy
resource holder that has signed<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>the LRSA.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>I believe this helps remove most of the barriers to entry
for legacy IPv4 holders to migrate<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>to IPv6 and is in the best interests of the community.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>ARIN has informed me that the matter will be placed on the
Board's finance committee<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>agenda. As such, I would like to encourage members here
who have an opinion on the<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>matter to let the board know what you think, ideally by
posting a message to this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Owen<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>Below is the message I received from ARIN and the original
suggestion I submitted:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span
style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Owen,</span></span><span style='font-family:
"Courier New"'><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>This is in response to your suggestion noted below
and assigned number 2010.1.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Thank you for your suggestion relating to charging
no initial fee related to request for an initial IPv6 allocation and/or
assignments for Legacy Holders that have signed the ARIN Legacy Registration
Service Agreement. As this relates to fees, this will be added to the
ARIN Board's Finance Committee agenda for 2010.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Some other information related to this suggestion
is that the current IPv6 waiver for allocations for initial requests and
renewals in 2010 is a 50% fee waiver. For requests in 2011, the allocation fees
will be 25% waived. </span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>In terms of assignments, the initial fee is not
waived. Clients requesting assignment resources pay an initial fee per
request of address space and thereafter pay annual allocation or maintenance
fees related to the Organizational ID as a whole. Initial fees are to cover the
effort related to reviewing and analyzing the request, whereas maintenance fees
are designed to cover the overhead of maintaining objects in the database.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Recent changes were implemented in mid 2009 for
organizations with both ARIN-issued and Legacy Resources. They are assessed an
Annual Fee based on the ARIN-issued resources and not charged the Legacy
resource maintenance fee.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>ARIN is reliant on its active membership to help
it better serve the community and we want to commend you for your continuing
activism and service.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Regards,</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Member Services</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>*********************************************</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>2010.1</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>01-18-2010 16:58:30</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>ARIN should offer legacy holders that sign the
LRSA the opportunity to receive an appropriate IPv6 allocation or assignment
for no initial fee. The applicable standard renewal fees would apply
thereafter.</span><br>
<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>