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John,<br>
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If I may interject. Your statement:<br>
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'...whereas the effort to process a request for an additional IPv4 or
IPv6 allocation can be very, very large, depending on the size of the
previous allocation and organization of the request supporting
materials.'<br>
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Is <i><u><b>way</b></u></i> over the top in regards to IPv6
allocations. The cost for an IPv6 allocation is about as close to $0 as
one can get from a management standpoint. The sheer magnitude of
available IPv6 address space is such that if all you had was an
automated website without any form of controls - we would all be long
dead before even a small portion of the IPv6 address space had been
delegated - even if you had practically every person on planet earth
applying for space.<br>
<br>
Generally, I am pleased with the IPv6 allocation fees being waived
currently - it is quite simply why we applied for an IPv6 block.
However, when I look at what is being proposed for IPv6 address charges
- they are outrageous when you take into consideration that IPv6 is a
virtually unlimited resource. IPv6 is a license for ARIN to print
money. We are all going to be operating with IPv4 and IPv6 address
space for a <i><u><b>long</b></u></i> time - that very fact will
substantially increase ARIN's revenue based on the current fee
structure. As a small ISP I find this very fact very troubling. Just as
the market is eating itself alive from competitive pressure - when we
must spend more in ARIN fees, equipment and training to deploy IPv6 and
it will be virtually impossible to for us to recover any additional
revenue from the use and delegation (to our customers) of IPv6 space.
ARIN is maintaining what I call an IPv4 <i><u><b>scarcity</b></u></i>
fee structure for IPv6 space which is totally at odds with the
monumental amount of address space that is available.<br>
<br>
IPv6 fees for a /32 should be about $100/year - at most! Larger blocks
could be sold on an economy of scale basis rather than a linear
multiplier of the cost of a /32 block. The entire process should be
fully automated - requiring minimal support staff. An even better
solution would be to create some competition in the IPv6 address
management arena by allowing the existence of multiple IPv6 registrars
in the same way that is done for domain names.<br>
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John Curran wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Feb 5, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Your ARIN fees pay for registration services. It takes just as long and as
much effort for someone to record the registration information for a /14 as
it does for a /24 so in reality the big guys are getting screwed because
they pay more for the same service the small guys get.
As you so strongly promote in other posts, IPs are not property so you are
not "buying" them. Cost per IP has nothing to do with it. It's the
registration services.
You really seem to have an axe to grind about everything. Have you ever
considered therapy or maybe crack? Maybe you just need a good woman... or
man if that's what you're into. (Not judging anyone) I hope the rest of
your life is happier than it seems to be here.
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Aaron -
ARIN has multiple services, and the variable costs of providing
them varies depending on the particular service.
For example, the cost of an entry in WHOIS is relatively constant,
regardless of whether its reflecting a /20 in IPv4 or /32 IPv6...
For comparison, the cost of processing an request for assignment
of an additional AS number is very low, and whereas the effort
to process a request for an additional IPv4 or IPv6 allocation
can be very, very large, depending on the size of the previous
allocation and organization of the request supporting materials.
It may be a transaction cost rather than registration services
subscription model is a more appropriate mechanism, but that is
not presently how ARIN charges.
We're working on a more granular understanding of these costs,
so we can evolve the fee schedule towards equitable recovery.
I expect to have more information on possible cost recovery
models at the Fall ARIN meeting this year.
One more item:
If you are going to continue to discuss these matters
on ARIN's mailing lists, you must cease postings
containing "personal character attacks" and/or postings
which "show disrespect for other participants". Refer
to the ARIN Mailing List AUP if needed, available here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html"><https://www.arin.net/participate/mailing_lists/aup.html></a>
Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
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