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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>From what I can tell,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you have have pre-arin resources and you DO NOT sign the
agreement, then you get nothing from ARIN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What does that do to your status and those pre-ARIN resources is
unclear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><br>
If you do sign the agreement then you are “legit” in ARIN’s eyes and can be a
member of the club. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Aaron Wendel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiverfor
IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have a question on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If I have a legacy allocation do I not have to sign a regular
RSA to get resources from ARIN? Do we have 2 classes of IP holders
getting services here?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Keith W. Hare<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for
IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I support Owen’s suggestion that IPv6 initial assignment
fees be waived for legacy resource holders who have signed the LRSA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Keith Hare<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>192.84.218.0/24<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>______________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>Keith W.
Hare
JCC Consulting, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>keith@jcc.com
600 Newark Road<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>Phone:
740-587-0157
P.O. Box 381<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>Fax:
740-587-0163
Granville, Ohio 43023<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>http://www.jcc.com
USA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>______________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net
[mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Owen DeLong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6
assignments to LRSA signatories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I have submitted a formal suggestion to the ACSP
recommending that the BoT waive initial<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>assignment fees for IPv6 when the applicant is a legacy
resource holder that has signed<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>the LRSA.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I believe this helps remove most of the barriers to entry
for legacy IPv4 holders to migrate<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>to IPv6 and is in the best interests of the community.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>ARIN has informed me that the matter will be placed on the
Board's finance committee<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>agenda. As such, I would like to encourage members
here who have an opinion on the<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>matter to let the board know what you think, ideally by
posting a message to this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Owen<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Below is the message I received from ARIN and the original
suggestion I submitted:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span
style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Owen,</span></span><span style='font-family:
"Courier New"'><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>This is in response to your suggestion noted below
and assigned number 2010.1.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Thank you for your suggestion relating to charging
no initial fee related to request for an initial IPv6 allocation and/or
assignments for Legacy Holders that have signed the ARIN Legacy Registration
Service Agreement. As this relates to fees, this will be added to the
ARIN Board's Finance Committee agenda for 2010.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Some other information related to this suggestion
is that the current IPv6 waiver for allocations for initial requests and
renewals in 2010 is a 50% fee waiver. For requests in 2011, the allocation fees
will be 25% waived. </span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>In terms of assignments, the initial fee is not
waived. Clients requesting assignment resources pay an initial fee per
request of address space and thereafter pay annual allocation or maintenance
fees related to the Organizational ID as a whole. Initial fees are to cover the
effort related to reviewing and analyzing the request, whereas maintenance fees
are designed to cover the overhead of maintaining objects in the database.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Recent changes were implemented in mid 2009 for
organizations with both ARIN-issued and Legacy Resources. They are assessed an
Annual Fee based on the ARIN-issued resources and not charged the Legacy
resource maintenance fee.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>ARIN is reliant on its active membership to help
it better serve the community and we want to commend you for your continuing
activism and service.</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Regards,</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Member Services</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>*********************************************</span><br>
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<span class=apple-style-span>2010.1</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>01-18-2010 16:58:30</span><br>
<br>
<span class=apple-style-span>ARIN should offer legacy holders that sign the
LRSA the opportunity to receive an appropriate IPv6 allocation or assignment
for no initial fee. The applicable standard renewal fees would apply
thereafter.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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