<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">However, the ongoing maintenance fees for assignments are $100/year which you are already<div>paying if you signed the LRSA, so, there is actually no additional ongoing cost, either.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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If you have a legacy allocation and need additional number resources
from ARIN, you have to sign a regular RSA to get them. The LRSA only
covers the legacy resources themselves. So the IPv6 resources this fee
waiver suggestion would apply to would be covered by the RSA. It
would not be an ongoing distinction, though, as it would only waive the
initial assignment fee, not ongoing maintenance fees.<br>
<br>
-Scott<br>
<br>
On 2/4/2010 11:09 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
have a question on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If
I have a legacy allocation do I not have to sign a regular
RSA to get resources from ARIN? Do we have 2 classes of IP holders
getting
services here?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf
Of </b>Keith W. Hare<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee
Waiver for
IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
support Owen’s suggestion that IPv6 initial assignment
fees be waived for legacy resource holders who have signed the LRSA.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Keith
Hare<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">192.84.218.0/24<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">______________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Keith
W.
Hare
JCC Consulting, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:keith@jcc.com">keith@jcc.com</a>
600
Newark Road<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Phone:
740-587-0157
P.O.
Box 381<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Fax:
740-587-0163
Granville,
Ohio 43023<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.jcc.com/">http://www.jcc.com</a>
USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Courier New"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">______________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf
Of </b>Owen DeLong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee
Waiver for IPv6
assignments to LRSA signatories<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have submitted a formal suggestion to the ACSP
recommending that the BoT waive initial<o:p></o:p></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">assignment fees for IPv6 when the applicant is a
legacy
resource holder that has signed<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">the LRSA.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">I believe this helps remove most of the barriers
to entry
for legacy IPv4 holders to migrate<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">to IPv6 and is in the best interests of the
community.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">ARIN has informed me that the matter will be
placed on the
Board's finance committee<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">agenda. As such, I would like to encourage
members
here who have an opinion on the<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">matter to let the board know what you think,
ideally by
posting a message to this list.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Owen<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Below is the message I received from ARIN and
the original
suggestion I submitted:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: "Courier New";">Owen,</span></span><span style="font-family: "Courier New";"><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">This is in response to your suggestion
noted below
and assigned number 2010.1.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Thank you for your suggestion relating
to charging
no initial fee related to request for an initial IPv6 allocation and/or
assignments for Legacy Holders that have signed the ARIN Legacy
Registration
Service Agreement. As this relates to fees, this will be added to the
ARIN Board's Finance Committee agenda for 2010.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Some other information related to this
suggestion
is that the current IPv6 waiver for allocations for initial requests
and
renewals in 2010 is a 50% fee waiver. For requests in 2011, the
allocation fees
will be 25% waived. </span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">In terms of assignments, the initial
fee is not
waived. Clients requesting assignment resources pay an initial fee per
request of address space and thereafter pay annual allocation or
maintenance
fees related to the Organizational ID as a whole. Initial fees are to
cover the
effort related to reviewing and analyzing the request, whereas
maintenance fees
are designed to cover the overhead of maintaining objects in the
database.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Recent changes were implemented in mid
2009 for
organizations with both ARIN-issued and Legacy Resources. They are
assessed an
Annual Fee based on the ARIN-issued resources and not charged the
Legacy
resource maintenance fee.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">ARIN is reliant on its active
membership to help
it better serve the community and we want to commend you for your
continuing
activism and service.</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Regards,</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">Member Services</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">American Registry for Internet Numbers
(ARIN)</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">*********************************************</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">2010.1</span><br>
<span class="apple-style-span">01-18-2010 16:58:30</span><br>
<br>
<span class="apple-style-span">ARIN should offer legacy holders that
sign the
LRSA the opportunity to receive an appropriate IPv6 allocation or
assignment
for no initial fee. The applicable standard renewal fees would apply
thereafter.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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