<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font>At this point, the only policy related action that might help would be to allow smaller organizations to get Provider Independent IPv6 address space. This has the risk of increasing the size of the global routing tables, but it would also increase the size of the IPv6 equipment market and put more pressure on upstream providers to support IPv6.<br><br></div></blockquote>The current boundary is set at an organization which has ~500 hosts and could justify an IPv4 /22.</div><div><br></div><div>How much smaller would you like the boundary to be?</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Right now, I can find only a small amount of router/firewall equipment in my size range that supports IPv6, but that doesn't really matter because I can't get IPv6 address space from my upstream or from ARIN.<br><br></div></blockquote>What is your size range, and, have you considered getting a /48 from a tunnel broker? (Feel free to reply to this one off list if you prefer)</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.tunnelbroker.net">http://www.tunnelbroker.net</a> as an example. *</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">From where I sit, it looks like the IPv6 equipment and upstream support does not exist because there is no market demand, and there is no market demand because the IPv6 equipment and upstream support does not exist. Whatever ARIN can do to disrupt this cycle will help.<br></blockquote><br>Keith Hare<br>JCC Consulting, Inc.<br>_______________________________________________<br>ARIN-Discuss<br>You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br>the ARIN Discussion Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-discuss@arin.net">ARIN-discuss@arin.net</a>).<br>Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br><a href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss</a><br>Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>* Full disclosure: I work for Hurricane Electric as an IPv6 Evangelist. Tunnelbroker is a community service provided by Hurricane Electric.</div><div><br></div></body></html>