<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Owen sent me [another] private email displaying confusion. Let me<br>restate this [publicly] for clarity sake:<br><br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On 7/24/09, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><br>That would be you, Owen Delong, the author.<br><br></div></blockquote>Yep.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>[ snip ]<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bottom line is that you can't designate a proxy, but, you CAN make<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">your input known<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">to the process by participating on PPML even if you do not attend a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">meeting.<br></blockquote></blockquote><br>That would be what you said. Your text.<br><br></div></blockquote>Yep... Which clearly refers to POLICY and not to Elections which is the</div><div>only role a DMR really has.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>"Where does it say you can't designate a proxy as the DMR? I believe we<br>can designate someone as our proxy by assigning them as DMR."<br><br></div></blockquote>You can't designate a proxy for POLICY matters which is what the context</div><div>of the rest of my post made pretty clear.</div><div><br></div><div>Additionally you can't really appoint a PROXY for your DMR, so much as you can</div><div>appoint anyone you chose AS your DMR.</div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>"Each General Member shall name one designated member representative<br>to vote on its behalf in any ARIN general election for the Board of<br>Trustees and Advisory Council and other matters related to ARIN."<br><br></div></blockquote>Right... ELECTIONS. Nothing to do with POLICY, the subject of my post.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>That would be a quote from the ARIN bylaws.<br><br>"The DMR must have a name and personalized e-mail address on record<br>with the Member Services Department to be eligible to vote. The e-mail<br>must include the person's name or initials and the organization's<br>domain name. Role accounts are not acceptable."<br><br>That would be from the ARIN website.<br><br>Personally, I question that validity of ARIN requiring that form for<br>the DMR without it being codified in the by-laws or even a community<br>policy. Any email address should suffice as long as it is properly<br>directed by the member.<br><br></div></blockquote>I'll leave that between you and the BoT who are responsible for those</div><div>decisions.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Regardless, the bottom line is yes, you can in fact assign a proxy to<br>cast your vote if you so choose.<br><br></div></blockquote>Sure, in elections. However, since the discussion was about how to</div><div>affect POLICY discussions and "votes", the DMR is a rathole to the</div><div>original discussion and really has nothing to do with the subject.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div></body></html>