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<br>I agree with Aaron as well and compliment him on his most positive minded response. Most notedly, I do consider this a "Community," and am not the least bit interested in the consistently abusive tone and tenor of the gentleman who has decided he speaks for all of us.<br><br>Well done Aaron and you have my support. I agree that we do need to dialouge and collaborate to get to a comfortable point with IPv6.<br><br>Babak<br><br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><hr><b>From:</b> Andy Alvarado [mailto:andya@brin.com]<br><b>To:</b> michael.dillon@bt.com, aaronh@bind.com<br><b>Cc:</b> arin-discuss@arin.net<br><b>Sent:</b> Thu, 07 May 2009 12:00:48 -0400<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] IPv6 End User Assignments<br><br>Despite the response I agree with Aaron.<br>
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From: "michael dillon" <<a href="mailto:michael.dillon@bt.com">michael.dillon@bt.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 9:54:46 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain<br>
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] IPv6 End User Assignments<br>
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> however, we all really do need to be <br>
> discussing things such as v6 end user assignments. <br>
<br>
There are plenty of other places to discuss IPv6<br>
technical issues and the biggest benefit of going<br>
elsewhere is that you can find some expert advice<br>
there.<br>
<br>
> I want so <br>
> badly for this to be a positive and educational experience <br>
> for all of us. <br>
<br>
So do I. That is why I collected and wrote up about <br>
half of the content on ARIN's IPv6 wiki at<br>
<<a href="http://www.getipv6.info" target="_blank">http://www.getipv6.info</a>>.<br>
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> This list is intended to be used for discussion. Please focus <br>
> on mastering the art of leadership rather than attacking <br>
> others or nit-picking at minor and mostly off-topic points.<br>
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Sorry, but I'm not here to lead anybody. This list is not for<br>
leadership, it's for discussion. I cast in my two bits worth<br>
and people either get it, or they don't.<br>
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> Based on your e-mails, you appear to be an intelligent person <br>
> with exceptionally high attention to detail and with the <br>
> right focus you could really help this community.<br>
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Community? I don't see any community here. Sorry but this is<br>
the ARIN members discussion list where most days, there is<br>
zero discussion. Many members don't even monitor this list.<br>
Check the archives to see what I mean.<br>
<br>
> Your <br>
> current behavior is creating a good deal of noise that is <br>
> distracting and takes away from the quality of the discussion.<br>
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And you're behavior is distracting us from the discussion<br>
of the topic in the subject line. IPv6 end user assignments.<br>
<br>
Start by reading<br>
<<a href="http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/IPv6_Addressing_Plans" target="_blank">http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/IPv6_Addressing_Plans</a>><br>
and then if you want to see where it came from, follow up the <br>
RFCs and Internet drafts referenced on it. You could also <br>
Google for something like "dillon nanog ipv6 addressing" and<br>
pick up the original discussions that led to this page. It was<br>
well over a year ago, maybe two.<br>
<br>
And if you know of an IPv6 deployment mailing list other than NANOG,<br>
feel free to tell us all about it.<br>
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--Michael Dillon<br>
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