<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Just to clarify, my statement below is my own personal opinion<div>and not necessarily that of ARIN or the ARIN AC.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><div>On May 12, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It does not, in my opinion, meet the requirements:<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; line-height: 18px; "><h6 style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-weight: normal; font-style: italic; ">4.2.3.7.1. Customer organization information</h6><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; line-height: 1.5em; ">ISPs are required to demonstrate efficient use of IP address space allocations by providing appropriate documentation, including assignment histories, showing their efficient use. SWIP and RWHOIS reassignments should show each client's organizational information.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; font-size: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em; line-height: 1.5em; "><br></p></span><div><div>I do not believe your company's contact information qualifies</div><div>as "Customer organization information". It may be that ARIN</div><div>has not yet noticed you doing this, but, this clearly violates</div><div>the spirit of the policy, and, I believe the letter as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On May 12, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Mark Danielson wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>When I SWIP I use our company's contact information except for the legal<br>business name of my customer. Keeps things simple and meets the<br>requirements. I've never received any hassle from ARIN or my customers,<br>unless I neglect doing it.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</a>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Anthony<br>Kinsey<br>Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:18 AM<br>To: Aaron Wendel<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:arin-discuss@arin.net">arin-discuss@arin.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] The joy of SWIPping<br><br><br>On May 8, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Aaron Wendel wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Is there any way that ARIN accepts SWIPS for dedicated hosting <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">customers<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">without a name and address? I know they do this for private <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">residences but<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">what about commercial entities?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Normally this isn't an issue for us but recently we've had a lot of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">customers complain about personal information tied to their IP <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">addresses and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">demand that it be removed.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Any suggestions?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>I would be curious about this as well. We've had similar requests in <br>the past. Seems silly to me, because if someone really wanted the <br>info that bad, they could still find it... Anyway.. 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