<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Sorry, my first swipe at this was hitting the reply button. Forgot it didn't just reply to the list. Below is what I sent to Ted.<DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Terri Kelley</DIV><DIV>Network Engineer</DIV></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR></DIV></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Terri Kelley <<A href="mailto:neteng@farm-market.net">neteng@farm-market.net</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">November 9, 2007 9:39:52 PM CST</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Ted Mittelstaedt <<A href="mailto:tedm@ipinc.net">tedm@ipinc.net</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> Ted,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks for the note. Yes I am new to ARIN. We are a small ISP coming from a single homed situation to multihomed which puts us into the ARIN area. So this is my first into this arena where before in my career I have always had an upstream provider that dealt with these issues.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>While ARIN's biggest thing might be assignment of IP addresses I would think that it still plays a part in the overall picture. Kind of like business, there are us tech guys and there are the sales guys. Both have to communicate or you end up with a mess. So each plays a part and while I have no desire to be sales it is important that the tech part has input. Might be a bad analogy but this late it is the best I could come up with. Even so, often it is us tech guys who get to deal with ARIN directly especially in small business.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>As far as questions, not yet. I have been swamped in this cutover and need to do some reading. Have to look up NANOG and IETF and learn more about them.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>Terri Kelley</DIV><DIV>Network Engineer</DIV></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR></DIV></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 9, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Terri,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> ARIN is rather constrained from quite a number of technical arenas. It's not in it's</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">charter to interfere with routing on the backbone which is where most of the pure</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">tech is. The biggest thing that ARIN does - assignment of IP addresses - is not</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">as much of a technical function as it is a business/administrative/political function that is</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">being driven by the technologists on NANOG and in IETF and what they want on</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">the Internet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"> With that said, one of the best ways to get rid of a stinky thread on a mailing</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">list is to replace it with a more interesting one. You said your new to the list, are</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">you new to ARIN? Are there any questions you have as to it's operation that</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">might be good topics for discussion here?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Ted</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"></SPAN><FONT face="Tahoma"><FONT size="2"><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"><FONT face="Arial"> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Tahoma"><FONT size="2"><SPAN class="959570302-10112007"> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</A> [<A href="mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net">mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net</A>]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Terri Kelley<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 09, 2007 4:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:ARIN-discuss@arin.net">ARIN-discuss@arin.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [arin-discuss] Legacy RSA<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face="Tahoma"><FONT size="2"></FONT></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir="ltr" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">I second what Steve has said here. <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"> <DIV>I am also new to the list and I am a tech guy not a politician and have no desire</DIV> <DIV>to be one. This one discussion if you will has come close to creating a arin spam</DIV> <DIV>folder or just removing myself.</DIV> <DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV> <DIV>There is probably a need for this type of thing but like Steve, I think a "politics" </DIV> <DIV>list would be very appropriate. I would still like to see the arin info that is sent</DIV> <DIV>out here but if it involves politics then anyone wanting to respond should go to</DIV> <DIV>the politics discussion to debate it out. So both groups would be served and </DIV> <DIV>neither would be left out of the loop.</DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV>Terri Kelley</DIV> <DIV>Farm to Market Broadband</DIV> <DIV>Network Engineer</DIV></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"></SPAN><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; apple-text-size-adjust: auto; orphans: 2; widows: 2"><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On Nov 9, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I can understand why so many people want to leave the list. I am a</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">newcomer, attempting to become somewhat of a good 'net citizen in</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">regards to appropriate use of my resources, and to generally gain</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">knowledge so I can be a respectable piece of the Internet's next generation.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I'm thankful that I'm an operator and not a politician. The only time</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I've ever known anyone to have so much time to dig up dirt on others is</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">in politics. What a waste of production time.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">As it has already been pointed out, Section 9.2 of the Member Mailing</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">List AUP is here:</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#nine2">http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#nine2</A></DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">If anything, for sanity sakes, at least propose a solution to what you</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">think is wrong instead of a blanket 'get rid of the board and the AC'</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">with a boat load of crap to go with it.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Whether someone is a criminal, has been accused of being a criminal or</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">was a criminal, if they can adequately suit the needs of the people they</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">are serving, why judge them on that. Cast the first stone.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">It is claimed that ARIN is wasting money because there is no benefit to</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">the community they serve (WRT spending on travel for trade shows).</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">However, there has been no documentation to the contrary that states</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">their spending on attendance to these trade shows has had a negative</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">impact either.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">My .02. I don't care anymore. I thought that monitoring these lists</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">would actually provide some benefit to myself, the organization that I</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">work for and most importantly the continuance of decent policy into the</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">future.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">On a side, but related note, if IP related policy is ever proposed that</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">does not involve those who have at least some operational/engineering</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">relevance, than I oppose of it right off the hop.</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">I propose a policy that moves political discussion and accusations that</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">have nothing to do with the basic fundamentals ARIN represents to</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">something like:</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="mailto:arin-politics@arin.net">arin-politics@arin.net</A></DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Steve</DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">ARIN-Discuss</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Discussion</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Mailing List (<A href="mailto:ARIN-discuss@arin.net">ARIN-discuss@arin.net</A>).</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px"><A href="http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss">http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-discuss</A> Please contact the ARIN Member</DIV> <DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Services Help Desk at <A href="mailto:info@arin.net">info@arin.net</A> if you experience any issues.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>