[arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning

Paul Timmins ptimmins at clearrate.com
Tue Oct 16 15:47:44 EDT 2018


I'm in favor of making the voting contacts available to the campaigns, 
with an opt out for those who are truly bothered. I would appreciate 
hearing from candidates, it might actually motivate me to research them 
and actually cast a vote. Whatever we have now doesn't reach me usefully 
and I'd basically be picking candidates based on name familiarity and 
coin flips otherwise. Might even be more effective than leaving 
voicemails on my cell phone to vote for people I've never heard of.

-Paul

On 10/16/2018 03:13 PM, Robby Wright wrote:
>
> Maybe giving each candidate a single email blast to present themselves 
> would reduce the mess. Then restrict all other campaign usage. The 
> campaign materials could be combined into a smaller number of emails. 
> I have to admit it would be nice to know who I am voting for.
>
> Robby Wright
>
> Chief Architect and Consultant
>
> Abtech Technologies, Inc.
>
> 760-827-5141
>
> *From:*ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of 
> *Rick Ewart
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:37 AM
> *To:* John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>; Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email 
> Campaigning
>
> Hi All.
>
> Seems to me that just doing a prohibition on using the mailing list 
> for campaigning purposes would solve the direct issue.
>
> As to Whois information and such, my 2 cents is that there is no real 
> need to touch/attack that. That information is public info that 
> doesn’t have an opt-in/opt-out process and thus is no different than 
> if some company looked it up to spam someone for any reason. If a 
> candidate feels it would help them (some might say it would hurt 
> them), then so be it.
>
> But then again, I wasn’t upset to begin with so….. :P
>
> Take care,
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Ewart, CPA, CISSP, CAMS
>
> Ewart Technologies, Inc.
>
> 15751 Sheridan St, #160
>
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33331
>
> rick at ewart.net <mailto:rick at ewart.net>
>
> *From:*ARIN-discuss [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] *On Behalf 
> Of *John Curran
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:24 PM
> *To:* Owen DeLong
> *Cc:* arin-discuss at arin.net <mailto:arin-discuss at arin.net>
> *Subject:* [arin-discuss] ARIN Election Processes and Email Campaigning
> *Importance:* High
>
> On 16 Oct 2018, at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com 
> <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:
>
>     Perhaps we should disallow election spam rather than changing the
>     opt-in/opt-out policy for arin-discuss.
>
> Owen - You have perfect timing, as I was about to send a message to 
> reopen this discussion…
>
> Folks -
>
> Last week, while our election was underway, I sent the following to 
> arin-discuss:  "Once this election is complete, we can then enjoy a 
> discussion of whether any changes to our Whois terms of use (or our 
> election processes in general) is warranted in this regard. "
>
> I will note that ARIN’s 2018 election is complete – 
> https://www.arin.net/announcements/2018/20181015.html
>
> I’d like to congratulate all of those elected, and thank everyone who 
> ran for the ARIN Board, ARIN AC, or the NRO NC.
>
> With this election complete, it’s now timely to discuss the matter of 
> campaign emails.  As many of you are aware, ARIN is required to 
> provide the list of organizations that are eligible to vote in each 
> election, and while we do not include email addresses in that list, 
> each year we have several folks up for election who send emails to the 
> electorate asking for their support.
>
> ARIN’s stance on this has historically been that those people who 
> receive the emails asking for support are in the best position to 
> weigh the merits of each candidate and their email practices, and thus 
> we do not specifically encourage or prohibit such communications in 
> the election processes.  Similarly, ARIN’s terms of use for its ARIN 
> Whois service does not specifically prohibit use of Whois data for 
> election outreach purposes, and it is apparent that some candidates 
> are using ARIN Whois to obtain related email addressed for their 
> campaigning.
>
> It would be good to discuss ARIN’s current stance on this issue, in 
> order to inform the ARIN Board in their consideration if any change is 
> warranted.
>
> To the end, please comment on the question:  “Should ARIN’s election 
> processes prohibit bulk campaign email  to the electorate, or is the 
> present approach suitable as-is?”
>
> Thanks!
>
> /John
>
> John Curran
>
> President and CEO
>
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>
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