[arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM

Nicholas Cocchiarella nick at myserverplanet.com
Mon Oct 15 11:58:47 EDT 2018


Ripe's mailing list is worse.

- Nick.


On 15/10/2018 4:52 pm, Vince Kent wrote:
>
> I don’t mind the initial messages but the hundreds of emails I have 
> gotten from everyone saying unsubscribe is rather annoying. I told 
> myself I wouldn’t respond because that would further the chain but 
> here I am. 😊
>
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> *From:* ARIN-discuss <arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of 
> *Michael Zindel
> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 8:39 AM
> *To:* arin-discuss at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM
>
> I'm puzzled by how many people aren't interested in the goings-on of 
> ARIN and refer to it as spam.
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:35 AM Mike Hammett <mike.hammett at ics-il.com 
> <mailto:mike.hammett at ics-il.com>> wrote:
>
>     You're not. It's a figment of your imagination.
>
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>     *From: *"John Ajjarapu" <John.Ajjarapu at ironmountain.com
>     <mailto:John.Ajjarapu at ironmountain.com>>
>     *To: *"Martin Hannigan" <hannigan at gmail.com
>     <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>>
>     *Cc: *arin-discuss at arin.net <mailto:arin-discuss at arin.net>
>     *Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 5:11:11 AM
>     *Subject: *Re: [arin-discuss] ARIN Election SPAM
>
>     Why am I getting these SPAM????
>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>     On Oct 15, 2018, at 4:41 AM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com
>     <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Note: Apologies if anyone doesn't want to discuss this on
>         arin-discuss. I always assumed this list was intended for
>         relevant discussions about ARIN with "PPML" being for policy
>         discussions. As Rodney Joffe pointed out, there is a URL to a
>         working unsubscribe function at the bottom of all ARIN lists
>         AFAIK if this is problematic for anyone.The list is also
>         tagged in the subject. It is quite easy to filter for later
>         reading comfort. It is a nice way to approach any mailbox
>         organization.
>
>         While I have preferences for voting as an impact to the policy
>         aspect and overall public interest in ARIN, I am not a DMR. My
>         voting views are not relevant to the issue at hand. If there
>         is one. Did I receive actual unsolicited commercial email
>         "UCE"? I don't have a direct relationship with the sender.
>         They weren't asking me for money or selling me anything other
>         than themselves. On one hand, someone running for election
>         seems to have a right per VA corporate law to access
>         information identifying voters. On the other, I am not the DMR
>         for any company at the moment. I don't speak for one either.
>         My interest is solely as an internet citizen. Seems like a
>         grey area with ARIN being between the rock and the hard place
>         more than anything.
>
>         \While in the era of Green Card Lawyers this would have been
>         horrific, today it is not. It is 2018.I don't like spam in the
>         traditional sense, but I am over it in the general sense. Spam
>         filters, both automated and personally configured do well
>         enough. Spam is never going away as long as there is anyone
>         alive willing to send money to $scammer. I'll leave it to the
>         pros and each individual as to what they think it is. For me,
>         this isn't a really a debate about spam.H owever, I do think
>         their is an issue for ARIN to consider for next time. Is email
>         considered PII? What affect, if any, does that have on the
>         required disclosure?
>
>         https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-122.pdf
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nvlpubs.nist.gov_nistpubs_Legacy_SP_nistspecialpublication800-2D122.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=BZ_JKB-rWbmvbqcMfzA7JpXhoFH0Akc04b41q2GY8IE&e=>
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>         https://www.dol.gov/general/ppii
>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dol.gov_general_ppii&d=DwMFaQ&c=Ro8Q4dnX1SNK_vCgNOhSveITMHXvJUsDIFqhHVlop24&r=_XUfmYZDwwobyZKwc42FnWWoVpR9ht7UoXYluNI9XQE&m=lAzX0_tsVRlZG8CXb4UlMVi4p1K_bcK3G84CAULtack&s=3gjhzESWMu7-ICUNa0XC5n1qvhs9yIixAC4AYKODu3A&e=>
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>         I doubt that my information was shared by ARIN, but it is
>         possible. If it were, I'd be surprised as only DMRs have votes
>         and while others may be listed in the ARIN database, they may
>         not be entirely relevant to the statute. So was it spam? I
>         don't know, but I'm not putting any more cycles into thinking
>         about it.
>
>         Food for though. For next time. $0.02
>
>         Best Regards,
>
>         -M<
>
>         On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 8:37 PM Arik Next
>         <arik at nextcommunications.com
>         <mailto:arik at nextcommunications.com>> wrote:
>
>             Right who do you want us to vote for ? All that emails and
>             at the end the candidate remain unknown ? This is really
>             disturbing.
>
>             Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>             On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Martin Hannigan
>             <hannigan at gmail.com <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 For me, it was Peter Harrison.
>
>                 Best,
>
>                 -M<
>
>                 On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 17:54 Bill Woodcock
>                 <woody at pch.net <mailto:woody at pch.net>> wrote:
>
>                     On Oct 10, 2018 17:33, Clayton Zekelman
>                     <clayton at MNSi.Net <mailto:clayton at MNSi.Net>> wrote:
>                     > I'm not sure if this is the place to bring it
>                     up, but did anyone else
>                     > receive unsolicited e-mail from someone running
>                     for an ARIN board
>                     > position this week?
>                     > It appears that they harvested my e-mail address
>                     from my POC record.
>
>                     Well, this seems like as good a place as any to
>                     bring it up.
>
>                     You may as well say which candidate it was from.
>
>                               -Bill
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